Hi.

let's say I can't use DRDB or mdadm at all.
If I sync every "pc", one by one, between two storage, this could be working 
(even if suboptimal)?
I know that rsync is able to recognize hardlinks (-H) only in same session 
(from manpage: " Note that rsync can only detect hard links between files that 
are inside the transfer set. ").
So I guess, on second storage disk occupation will be bigger.
Thank you very much.



>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: paolo.basen...@fcr.re.it
>Data: 16/12/2015 9.45
>A: <backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>Ogg: Re: [BackupPC-users] Storage replica
>
>I've got QNAP too.
>Initially tried with BPC installed directly on the NAS, but the NAS OS 
>is too limited and the risk that BPC does not survive a firmware update 
>is high, IMHO.
>
>But the last two QNAP firmware generations have an interesting new 
>feature: KVM virtualization.
>
>I installed a CentOS 7 VM on each NAS and installed BPC and DRBD on 
>CentOS. You can even follow Christian's smart advices and do iSCSI+RAID1 
>on the VM, while the NAS maintains standard configuration and no addons 
>not supported by QNAP.
>If your QNAP NAS has sufficient amount of RAM and CPU power, I highly 
>recommend this configuration.
>
>By the way: with firmware 4.0.x you need a dedicated physical ethernet 
>for each virtual ethernet. With 4.2.x firmwares, virtual switch feature 
>removes that limitation.
>
>Regards
>Paolo
>
>
>
>Il 15/12/2015 20:49, Christian Völker ha scritto:
>> Well, this information would have been helpful before ;)
>>
>> So in this case instead of trying to add DRBD to the QNAP host I would
>> suggest you export an iSCSI target to the BackupPC host. Add iSCSI
>> client to your BackupPC server and use the iSCSI target as underlying
>> device for local RAID1. Thus, you always have an up-to-date secondary
>> device available. Additionally use snapshot functionality of QNAP and
>> you even have protection against filesystem failures,
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> Am 15.12.2015 um 18:44 schrieb absolutely_f...@libero.it:
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> sorry, I forgot to mention that my secondary storage is a QNAP device.
>>> Actually there is a way to install BackupPC on it:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.qnap.com/wiki/How_to_install_the_BackupPC_application
>>>
>>> Anyway, I would prefer keeping configuration as much standard as possible.
>>> My choice is limited to QNAP daemon (NFS, rsyncd, samba).
>>> Thankyou!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----Messaggio originale----
>>>> Da: step...@physics.unc.edu
>>>> Data: 15/12/2015 14.41
>>>> A: "absolutely_f...@libero.it"<absolutely_f...@libero.it>, <backuppc-
>>> us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> Ogg: Re: [BackupPC-users] R: Re:  R: Re: Storage replica
>>>>
>>>> (Unless someone mentioned it and I missed it), I'm surprised no one has 
yet
>>>> offered the standard reply: stand up a 2nd independent BackupPC server.
>>>>
>>>> Because it's totally separate, you're free to configure it identically to
>>>> the first one or if it's simply for DR, set up a different backup 
schedule
>>>> (ie, weekly or monthly rather than daily) and retention period -- for
>>>> example keeping only the last 2 backups rather than a long backup
>>>> history... Easy to adjust to fit your available storage and business 
needs.
>>>>
>>>> Slightly more work up front, but easy to perform restores without 
depending
>>>> on another server.
>>>>
>>>> Hth.
>>>> ~Stephen
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, absolutely_f...@libero.it wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> thanks to both :)
>>>>> DRDB sounds interesting :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----Messaggio originale----
>>>>>> Da: chrisc...@knebb.de
>>>>>> Data: 14/12/2015 15.45
>>>>>> A: <backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>>>> Ogg: Re: [BackupPC-users] R: Re: Storage replica
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry, using rsync for this purpose is absolutely not recommended!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always, it depends on what you want to get. If you do not mind 
having
>>>>>> old data as long as you have it, it might be fine with rsync running
>>>>>> once a month. You have a pool of 2.5TB- on my pool of 1.4TB I aborted
>>>>>> rsync after 2days! So you might need 3days or more for a ful rsync run.
>>>>>> I doubt you want it this way!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no easy ways to have them always in sync. All file level
>>>>>> methods are supposed to take ages because of the hardlinks. So you 
might
>>>>>> want to use block based duplication.
>>>>>> One possibility is DRBD (which I do here). It is RAID1 through network.
>>>>>> If you do not want the remote node slow down local file access you 
might
>>>>>> think of a periodic disconnect and reconnect. Besides of this it 
appears
>>>>>> to be rock stable and reliable.
>>>>>> Another possibility are of course distributed file systems. But as you
>>>>>> do not need write access on remote as long as primary is alive it might
>>>>>> be overkill.
>>>>>> Last suggestion is ZFS which I do not know at all. But it appears to
>>>>>> have some functionality. Try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say use DRBD ;) And definetly forget about rsync!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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