Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Thanks Lars, comments below. Il 16/05/2016 23:11, Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting ha scritto: > On 16/05/16 17:57, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > >>> So, I feel that we would like to enforce some peer review. Perhaps the >>> solution is to require 2 maintainers to approve a patch, but I fear that >>>

Re: [BackupPC-users] Issues for future backuppc activities

2016-05-16 Thread Rick L
Very true and proves a genuine interest is still more than alive. On a second note, I'll simply throw this in for now, I'm no programmer, but I do have sysadmin skills, some front end design ability, and some free time here and again. Jack of all master of none. It's worth mentioning for the

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
On 16/05/16 20:39, Norm Legare wrote: > Where/when/who/how does the regression testing get done for this project? We have no CI set up yet. Maybe Travis could work. I'm not sure we even have a test suite. We should work on that, definitely. -- Best regards, Lars Tobias

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
On 16/05/16 17:57, Mauro Condarelli wrote: >> So, I feel that we would like to enforce some peer review. Perhaps the >> solution is to require 2 maintainers to approve a patch, but I fear that >> increases the workload/makes the process more fragile. > > If You want peer-review we could move to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 05/16 07:41 , Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Please see:https://danielmiessler.com/study/git/ That's a really good link. Thank you. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com --

Re: [BackupPC-users] Issues for future backuppc activities

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Thanks Alexander, comments below. Il 16/05/2016 20:37, Alexander Moisseev ha scritto: > On 16.05.16 20:20, Mauro Condarelli wrote: >> I would add "packaging" as today it's rather hard to install in non-standard >> places. > As FreeBSD sysutils/backuppc port maintainer I can say one of the first

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Norm Legare
It sounds like a pull request is the same as checking out a file, but sort of in reverse. The request is granted by an admin and that alerts others that this file is being worked on and for whatever reason. This also allows for a discussion on the merits of this work if so desired. Then

Re: [BackupPC-users] Issues for future backuppc activities

2016-05-16 Thread Alexander Moisseev
On 16.05.16 20:20, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > I would add "packaging" as today it's rather hard to install in non-standard > places. As FreeBSD sysutils/backuppc port maintainer I can say one of the first thing that should be done is to split up configure.pl in two parts: installation script and

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Norm Legare
I ask this because if it was so, my Clearcase knowledge would be of some use to this effort. Of course, Clearcase may be a thing of the past and my knowledge is from 15 years ago. -Original Message- From: Mauro Condarelli Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:41 PM To:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
Norm Legare wrote: > Can I assume that github is very similar to Clearcase? Git is not equal to Github, as Github is a web site that is hosting projects using Git, while Git is the actual version control system. I guess one of the biggest differences with clearcase is that git is a distributed

Re: [BackupPC-users] Fatal Error during Samba backup

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
I suspect this https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/issues/14 is relevant. Can You check, please? Regards Mauro Il 16/05/2016 18:22, David Williams ha scritto: > Hi, > I am still getting this issue daily. Can anyone provide any ideas as to what > is happening or how I can hunt down the

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi Norm, comments inline. Il 16/05/2016 18:46, Norm Legare ha scritto: > Can I assume that github is very similar to Clearcase? > Not really. Github is built around git, which is philosophically different from Clearcase, even if there are some similarities. Please

[BackupPC-users] Contributors

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi, I am Mauro Condarelli, I am a freelance regularly involved in architecting and implementing embedded systems. I have a strong background in C/C++ and java, but I can program in several other languages including Perl. I also have experience as project leader for medium sized development

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Norm Legare
Can I assume that github is very similar to Clearcase? From: Kris Lou Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:32 PM To: General list for user discussion, questions and support Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4 I'm glad to see this get off the ground -- with no disrespect to the great

Re: [BackupPC-users] Issues for future backuppc activities

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Thanks Juergen, Cmments inline. Il 16/05/2016 17:50, Juergen Harms ha scritto: > Opening a new Subject to keep this discussion somewhat readable. Some > replies to / and adding to the list of Mauros points: > > - have me join and participate in git management activities: why not? I > have been

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

2016-05-16 Thread Norm Legare
I have been following this discussion with interest. Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember seeing it mentioned that a qualified list of OSes and packages and hardware where BackupPC has been tested would be published somewhere. -Original Message- From: Mauro Condarelli Sent:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Fatal Error during Samba backup

2016-05-16 Thread David Cramblett
What version of Samba are you using? There is an issue in regards to newer versions of samba having different verbose output then samba has had in the past. BackupPC doesn't get some information it's expecting causing it to think there is a problem. More details from an earlier email thread here:

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

2016-05-16 Thread David Cramblett
I think security and reliability of the code are worth waiting a few extra days (weeks) on a release when maintainers are busy. I want to add, one of the great things about github is how easy it is to create your own local fork and work of it as needed. Users can also re-sync their fork with the

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Kris Lou
I'm glad to see this get off the ground -- with no disrespect to the great work that Craig has done over the years. Just a couple more suggestions (and I'm sure this list will grow as the project does): * It might be worth contacting and inviting the individual maintainers of the primary

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi Adam, comments inline. Il 16/05/2016 17:24, Adam Goryachev ha scritto: > Thank you for taking the time to explain, but it doesn't (well, > partially) explain how to solve my "concern". We ideally want a larger > number of "maintainers" available to share the burden of developing > backuppc,

[BackupPC-users] Issues for future backuppc activities

2016-05-16 Thread Juergen Harms
Opening a new Subject to keep this discussion somewhat readable. Some replies to / and adding to the list of Mauros points: - have me join and participate in git management activities: why not? I have been intrigued by my ignorance on GIT - learning is always a challenge if there are people

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup (was: Status on new BackupPC v4)

2016-05-16 Thread David Cramblett
I want to add it's a good idea to make your local changes to the repo in a git branch. As mentioned, after you make a pull request when you update the code in your repo, the pull request will update as well. It's possible you may be working on multiple different patches and you don't want some of

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

2016-05-16 Thread Adam Goryachev
On 17/05/2016 01:00, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Hi, > > This kind of workflow is a bit complex, but has several advantages: > > a) everyone can directly clone the main directory without further > requirements. > b) everyone (with free github account) can submit issues and discuss them. > c)

Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup (was: Status on new BackupPC v4)

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi, I think a bit of explanation is in order to clarify (Lars please correct me if I say something wrong). Github workflow follows git workflow, which is very different from traditional CVS/SVN. Main difference is you do not "checkout" with git, but You "clone"; this means you get a complete

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 05/16 10:50 , Adam Goryachev wrote: > I would definitely suggest that the lack of FTP backup support in v4 is > a non-issue. I have to agree. After 10+ years of using BPC I've not found many situations where it would be really useful. Better to get other functionality out sooner. As Voltaire

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Adam Goryachev
Hi, I've trawled through my inbox, and submitted a few issues that I was able to find. Right now, I would suggest the highest priority issues are 1 and 4. If you are knowledgeable with C, then please take a look at issue 1, I suspect this could be as simple as an uninitialised variable/etc,

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Gerald Brandt
On 2016-05-16 07:50 AM, Adam Goryachev wrote: > > On 16/05/2016 22:05, Stephen Joyce wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks to Lars and Mauro. It's great that you've taken this on. >> >> FWIW, I contacted Craig directly last week and received a reply over >> the weekend. It sounds like he's quite busy, and

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
On 16/05/16 15:33, Adam Goryachev wrote: > Ideally, anyone can submit a patch > Ideally, any "approved" person can commit a patch, as long as it isn't > their own > > Could that be done? Yes, this is done using Pull Requests. The process is described in this article:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
On 16/05/16 14:56, Juergen Harms wrote: > Username: I dont remember (-, sorry - found the confirmation mail when I > first joined the list in 2008, but that has no reference to a user name > I used at that time. > > My email address is juergen.ha...@unige.ch - in the past I normally used >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Adam Goryachev
On 16/05/2016 23:06, Alexander Moisseev wrote: > On 16.05.2016 15:50, Adam Goryachev wrote: >> Finally, I've created a github account for myself, I can't promise to do >> much, but if I can at least have the ability to submit patches, then I'd >> appreciate it. Having never worked with github

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Rick L
Chime in for encouragement. Great to see this picking up such momentum. It was time. On 05/15/2016 11:15 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > On 05/14 05:53 , Ib H. Rasmussen wrote: >> Although I'm not a contributor, and I don't think i'm cabable of being >> one, I have been using BackupPC for

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Alexander Moisseev
On 16.05.2016 15:50, Adam Goryachev wrote: > > Finally, I've created a github account for myself, I can't promise to do > much, but if I can at least have the ability to submit patches, then I'd > appreciate it. Having never worked with github before (other than > checking out code to use), is

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Thanks Lars. Il 16/05/2016 13:35, Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting ha scritto: > On 16/05/16 13:23, Mauro Condarelli wrote: >> My current plans are: >> >> 1) bring github up to date. > I have now finished bringing it up to date and have published it on github: > > https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi Stephen, comments inline below. Il 16/05/2016 14:05, Stephen Joyce ha scritto: > Hi, > > Thanks to Lars and Mauro. It's great that you've taken this on. > > FWIW, I contacted Craig directly last week and received a reply over the > weekend. It sounds like he's quite busy, and does not

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Juergen Harms
On 05/16/2016 01:35 PM, Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting wrote: > Please post your username if you would like to join in. Yes, please put me on the list. I had mentioned areas of technical skills - I should add that I also have experience in proposing, running and reviewing projects and motivating

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Adam Goryachev
On 16/05/2016 22:05, Stephen Joyce wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to Lars and Mauro. It's great that you've taken this on. > > FWIW, I contacted Craig directly last week and received a reply over > the weekend. It sounds like he's quite busy, and does not regularly > read these lists, but he still

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Stephen Joyce
Hi, Thanks to Lars and Mauro. It's great that you've taken this on. FWIW, I contacted Craig directly last week and received a reply over the weekend. It sounds like he's quite busy, and does not regularly read these lists, but he still hopes to be able to contribute more in the future (ie,

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
On 16/05/16 13:23, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > My current plans are: > > 1) bring github up to date. I have now finished bringing it up to date and have published it on github: https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc-xs https://github.com/backuppc/rsync-bpc > 4)

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 16/05/2016 12:21, Juergen Harms ha scritto: > Things appear to shape up nicely, there are positive replies to many of > the pending issues. Given the response of Lars - thanks - my biggest > preoccupation has gone away: contact with Craig would still be nice, but > is not essential any more,

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message- > From: Juergen Harms [mailto:juergen.ha...@unige.ch] > Sent: den 16 maj 2016 12:22 > To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4 > > Things appear to shape up nicely, there are positive replies to many of > the

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC

2016-05-16 Thread Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting
On 16/05/16 11:13, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Il 16/05/2016 10:04, Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting ha scritto: >> The CVS repo is a mess, so I abandoned a sync. Also, I haven't been able >> to find any signs of where the repo for v4 is. I can only guess that >> Craig keeps it private and publishes

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Juergen Harms
Things appear to shape up nicely, there are positive replies to many of the pending issues. Given the response of Lars - thanks - my biggest preoccupation has gone away: contact with Craig would still be nice, but is not essential any more, and between Mauro and Lars there are now two persons

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC

2016-05-16 Thread Alexander Moisseev
On 16.05.16 12:13, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > If You can, it would be nice if You could bring the repo up-to-date with > current CVS. > After that we can decide if to open a new project for v4 (rationale being it > really > changes a lot and even backend repository structure is not compatible

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Thanks Lars, comments inline. Il 16/05/2016 10:04, Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting ha scritto: > Hi Mauro, > > Yes, I created the backuppc/backuppc for exactly this reason, so I'm all > too happy to use this for the project. Glad to hear that, THANKS. > I planned for it to be a mirror of the CVS

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-16 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi Adam, comments inline Il 16/05/2016 01:43, Adam Goryachev ha scritto: > I had intentions of trying to pick up the project and start fixing Welcome on board! > 1) Send the email to Craig, and expect that no reply will be received. I am waiting for a usable address for that; I strongly doubt