Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-21 Thread Craig Barratt
Les Mikesell writes: On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 16:44, Dan Pritts wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:53:33PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I'd expect to see quite a lot of temp file activity that would result in changes to unused space on the live system. It would Yeah, you're right - i

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Justin R. Pessa
Message- From: Justin R. Pessa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Chipman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets? Tim, My backup pool is much smaller, but what I do is very similar. I've got 2

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 08:07, Justin R. Pessa wrote: No problem! Like you, I spent a while trying to wrap my head around the way I was running BackupPC, to make certain it was a realistic procedure. I'm glad to see others have come to use similar methods! If you browse through the list

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Dan Pritts
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 02:28:09PM -0500, Tim Chipman wrote: Additionally, I suppose - based on how quick the data pool evolves, rsync could be used to update the (rotating disk pool raid5 data) which might be faster than doing (reformat and clean copy) each week. Or maybe not. given the

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Dan Pritts
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:37:14AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I don't think it will be practical to let one backuppc system back up another, although I've always wished it could for a similar scenario where the 'sub' levels are in remote offices. I think it could be made to work but would

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:54, Dan Pritts wrote: I don't think it will be practical to let one backuppc system back up another, although I've always wished it could for a similar scenario where the 'sub' levels are in remote offices. I think it could be made to work but would require

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Dan Pritts
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 02:10:12PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: The number of hardlinks makes rsync (or other file-oriented) copies impractical if the archive is large at all, It occurs to me that you could, rather than rsyncing at the filesystem, rsync the raw device that holds the filesystem.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 14:22, Dan Pritts wrote: The number of hardlinks makes rsync (or other file-oriented) copies impractical if the archive is large at all, It occurs to me that you could, rather than rsyncing at the filesystem, rsync the raw device that holds the filesystem. That

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Dan Pritts
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:03:00PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I think the same idea occurred to me a while back but rsync refused to use a device directly. Annoying. Could be patched in rsync, though. I bet that Wayne would consider an option to do this. You'd probably want to fill all

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Dan Pritts
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:53:33PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I'd expect to see quite a lot of temp file activity that would result in changes to unused space on the live system. It would Yeah, you're right - i think of this as all being rsync based but it sort of is and sort of isn't.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 16:44, Dan Pritts wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:53:33PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I'd expect to see quite a lot of temp file activity that would result in changes to unused space on the live system. It would Yeah, you're right - i think of this as all being

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-20 Thread Dan Pritts
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:49:50PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Even a normal rsync transfer of anything with changes builds a new copy of the file and replaces the old only when the new temp copy is complete. Hmmm... I guess that means the partition image scheme needs disk space for a 2nd

[BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-19 Thread Tim Chipman
I'm trying to determine if a particular approach might work for offsite backup copy of BackupPC data store, more-or-less based on a matched pair of hot-swap SATA LVM disk sets.. and specifically I was wondering if anyone else does something thus? ie: (numbers are for illustration only..)

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Offsite copy-backup to removable SATA HotSwap LVM Sets?

2006-01-19 Thread Justin R. Pessa
Tim, My backup pool is much smaller, but what I do is very similar. I've got 2 400gb sata disks in a Raid1 array. Daily backups go to these disks where 2 fulls and 5 incremental are saved. I've also got one removable 400gb disk bay in a 5.25 bay. I use 15 disks and rotate Week 1, Week 2,