Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-23 Thread Chris Robertson
thomat...@gmail.com wrote: How dangerous is it to run xfs without write barriers? http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq.html#nulls As long as your computer shuts down properly, sends a flush to the drives, and the drives manage to clear their on-board cache before power is removed or the chip

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-20 Thread Anand Gupta
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Chris Robertson crobert...@gci.net wrote: dan wrote: If the disk usage is the same as before the pool, the issue isnt hardlinks not being maintained. I am not convinced that XFS is an ideal filesystem. I'm sure it has it's merits, but I have lost data

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-20 Thread Thomas Smith
Hi, The server seems to be at a good level of performance now (1 hour and 45 minutes), thank you all for your help! Retrospective, for people coming across this thread later and wanting to fix backuppc xfs performance problems: To fix this problem, I set the noatime and nodiratime options on the

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-20 Thread dan
I guess that updatedb thing reinforces my arguement about not seeing any mixed load tests. ext3 handles these situations pretty good, maybe XFS does not... By the way, I read that EXT4 should allow for EXT3EXT4 upgrades. One(of many) nice things about EXT4 is delayed writes which essentially

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-19 Thread Thomas Smith
on 2008-12-19 10:56:44 +1100 [Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?]: Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: I don't think that BackupPC_nightly checks for hard link dups between the pc/ and pool/ directories. I fully agree on that point. I would advise that you confirm whether

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-19 Thread dan
If the disk usage is the same as before the pool, the issue isnt hardlinks not being maintained. I am not convinced that XFS is an ideal filesystem. I'm sure it has it's merits, but I have lost data on 3 filesystems ever, FAT*, XFS and NTFS. I have never lost data on reiserfs3 or ext2,3.

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-19 Thread Chris Robertson
dan wrote: If the disk usage is the same as before the pool, the issue isnt hardlinks not being maintained. I am not convinced that XFS is an ideal filesystem. I'm sure it has it's merits, but I have lost data on 3 filesystems ever, FAT*, XFS and NTFS. I have never lost data on

[BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-18 Thread Thomas Smith
Hi, I'm running BackupPC 3.0.0 under Ubuntu. I'm having problems similar to the ones some people have had with 3.1.0 on XFS, but I also did some other odd things before this started happening, so I want to relate the whole scenario, in case I did something else to break it. I accidentally

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Mantz
Hello Thomas, Did the BackupPC_nightly jobs take 22 hours on the 17th as well? If they didn't, I would suspect that since you restored the TopDir from a tarball, that the hardlinking wasn't handled correctly in the tar compression. BackupPC_nightly would have been re-establishing the

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Robertson
Thomas Smith wrote: Hi, No, it continues to take 22 hours or so each day. -Thomas How is your XFS volume mounted? Did you add the noatime and nodiratime directives? If you have battery backed storage, I would highly recommend using nobarrier as well

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-18 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Paul Mantz wrote at about 10:19:45 -0800 on Thursday, December 18, 2008: Hello Thomas, Did the BackupPC_nightly jobs take 22 hours on the 17th as well? If they didn't, I would suspect that since you restored the TopDir from a tarball, that the hardlinking wasn't handled correctly in

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-18 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Adam Goryachev wrote on 2008-12-19 10:56:44 +1100 [Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?]: Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: I don't think that BackupPC_nightly checks for hard link dups between the pc/ and pool/ directories. I fully agree on that point. I would advise

Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?

2008-12-18 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Holger Parplies wrote at about 02:33:44 +0100 on Friday, December 19, 2008: Hi, Adam Goryachev wrote on 2008-12-19 10:56:44 +1100 [Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3.0.0: another xfs problem?]: I would advise that you confirm whether or not your hard links were restored properly