Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-05 Thread Neal Becker
Matthias Meyer wrote: Neal Becker wrote: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: On 04/04 07:40 , Neal Becker wrote: Are there instructions for using backuppc for bare metal restore? Probably somewhere. It's fairly straightforward tho. Boot the bare-metal machine with Knoppix (or your choice

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-05 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 11:20 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Interesting. I thought that rsync is no worse than using e.g., tar in the case of nothing to compare to. Do you think rsync is actually worse (slower)? It probably is slightly slower, especially at start. However, if there is little in

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-05 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 04/05 11:20 , Neal Becker wrote: Interesting. I thought that rsync is no worse than using e.g., tar in the case of nothing to compare to. Do you think rsync is actually worse (slower)? I've seen cases where rsync was 2x-4x slower than tar, when there was no data to compare to. -- Carl

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-04 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 04/04 07:40 , Neal Becker wrote: Are there instructions for using backuppc for bare metal restore? Probably somewhere. It's fairly straightforward tho. Boot the bare-metal machine with Knoppix (or your choice of rescue disks). Partition and format the drives. Mount the partitions in the

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-04 Thread Neal Becker
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: On 04/04 07:40 , Neal Becker wrote: Are there instructions for using backuppc for bare metal restore? Probably somewhere. It's fairly straightforward tho. Boot the bare-metal machine with Knoppix (or your choice of rescue disks). Partition and format the

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-04 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 04/04 09:51 , Neal Becker wrote: Would there be a similar procedure using rsync? maybe. never tried it. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com -- Create and publish

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-04 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 09:51 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Would there be a similar procedure using rsync? I've done it using the GUI. Bring up the affected machine on a Live CD, run sshd and install the BackupPC root key. Create a mounted filesystem tree in /mnt/, and use the GUI to restore there.

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-04 Thread Pedro M. S. Oliveira
hi, I've written about that on my blog some time ago, its a little how to. just search for backuppc on www.linux-geex.com. cheers pedro On Apr 4, 2011 3:36 PM, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 09:51 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Would there be a similar procedure

Re: [BackupPC-users] bare metal restore?

2011-04-04 Thread Matthias Meyer
Neal Becker wrote: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: On 04/04 07:40 , Neal Becker wrote: Are there instructions for using backuppc for bare metal restore? Probably somewhere. It's fairly straightforward tho. Boot the bare-metal machine with Knoppix (or your choice of rescue disks).

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-12 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hello Les, free. On linux just use tar and install grub again if it is a boot disk. I managed to resize the partizion on one 80GB HDD, to fit it in a 40GB HDD (did this with GParted Live). Afterwards, I used Clonezilla to clone that partition on my 40GB HDD, but at the boot my system

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-12 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Wednesday 12 May 2010 07:11:48 Boniforti Flavio wrote: I managed to resize the partizion on one 80GB HDD, to fit it in a 40GB HDD (did this with GParted Live). Afterwards, I used Clonezilla to clone that partition on my 40GB HDD, but at the boot my system remained stuck with GRUB displayed

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-12 Thread Les Mikesell
Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hello Les, free. On linux just use tar and install grub again if it is a boot disk. I managed to resize the partizion on one 80GB HDD, to fit it in a 40GB HDD (did this with GParted Live). Afterwards, I used Clonezilla to clone that partition on my 40GB HDD, but

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-11 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hy Bob... [cut] Now, for those who will ask detail question about this, I have condensed my description to simplify the answer. My suggestion is that you need to learn about clonezilla live cd and use it to create this bare metal image. I have found this to be a simple solution for my

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Wooden
Boniforti, You are correct, Clonezilla will not resize a partition. When replacing a hard drive, I usually get a larger capacity drive, restore and then resize it with Gparted on a Knoppix live cd. Bob Wooden Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hy Bob... [cut] My suggestion is that you need to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-11 Thread Les Mikesell
Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hy Bob... [cut] Now, for those who will ask detail question about this, I have condensed my description to simplify the answer. My suggestion is that you need to learn about clonezilla live cd and use it to create this bare metal image. I have found this to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:02:53 +0200, Boniforti Flavio fla...@piramide.ch wrote: Hello list... I was wondering if I may be doing some sort of bare metal restore of a Linux server, if I'd be backing it up *completely* on my backuppc server. Theoretically, a bare-metal restore should be

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Pedro M. S. Oliveira
Some time ago i wrote about thins in my blog, check it out: http://www.linux-geex.com/?s=backuppcx=0y=0#/?p=163 Cheers, Pedro On Monday 10 May 2010 13:02:53 Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hello list... I was wondering if I may be doing some sort of bare metal restore of a Linux server, if I'd be

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Monday 10 May 2010 14:02:21 Josh Malone wrote: In practice though, I've found it takes lots of tries to perfect the above procedure and it's often easier to re-install the base OS and just restore critical config files, application files and data to the box. Bare-metal restores *sound*

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hy there... So with that you would restore with BackupEdge and then go into your BackuPC repository to see what is outdated. Much quicker in my setup. Your pay back may be different. I'm not into *buying* a new piece of software, instead I'd really like to achieve bare metal restore with

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hello Joshua Theoretically, a bare-metal restore should be possible by backing up the entire filesystem. The restore procedure to a [cut] In practice though, I've found it takes lots of tries to perfect the above procedure and it's often easier to re-install the base OS and just

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hy Pedro, Some time ago i wrote about thins in my blog, check it out: http://www.linux-geex.com/?s=backuppcx=0y=0#/?p=163 I read through your post, and it seems interesting and feasable (reading without doing is much more complicated as it may seem when doing it)... Can you thus confirm that

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/10/2010 9:14 AM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hy there... So with that you would restore with BackupEdge and then go into your BackuPC repository to see what is outdated. Much quicker in my setup. Your pay back may be different. I'm not into *buying* a new piece of software, instead I'd

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hello Les, [cut] extract. Then make sure that the restored /etc/fstab has the right partition names and re-install grub so the new system will boot. That's the *perfect and precise* way of doing that... If you want something more automated and can take the system down occasionally, you

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread B. Alexander
For me, I use a backup client mainly for unique apps and data. Since most of my boxes run Debian, I have pretty much figured out the directories to backup/restore to save the box. I back up the following Debian-related directories: /var/backups /var/cache/apt (less /var/cache/apt/archives)

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread John BORIS
I would like to just clarify why I do it this way. When I first took this job we did just that. get out the OS disks, rebuild the File Systems, then do a restore from the tapes. It took us an entire day. I also had to rebuild all of my user accounts and printers and shares as the process they had

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, 10 May 2010 16:41:16 +0200, Boniforti Flavio fla...@piramide.ch wrote: I liked your explanation... ;-) I think I'll be doing *full* backuppc backup of my server as a first step to have constant backups. My thouhgts are related to eventually recovering the situation. As the server

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/10/2010 9:59 AM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: extract. Then make sure that the restored /etc/fstab has the right partition names and re-install grub so the new system will boot. That's the *perfect and precise* way of doing that... Basically, if you know how you would restore with tar, you

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Bob Wooden
For what it might be worth, I will add my two cents . . . . . I have a very simplistic view of the backup process. First, I have BackupPC running for weekly full backups and nightly incremental backups. Also, every Sunday morning, I go to each computer with a current version of Clonezilla live

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Stefan Peter
Am 10.05.2010 16:41, schrieb Boniforti Flavio: Hello Joshua What my concern is about, is the fact that when I'd be reinstalling from scratch on a new HDD, how would I get to the same state of installed/not installed packages as it was on its latest useful backup? Is there any way to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare metal restore

2010-05-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/10/2010 10:25 AM, Josh Malone wrote: I liked your explanation... ;-) I think I'll be doing *full* backuppc backup of my server as a first step to have constant backups. My thouhgts are related to eventually recovering the situation. As the server I want to back up is barely a squid

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare Metal Restore for Microsoft Windows XP

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Stowe
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Michael Stowe wrote: Out of necessity, I had an opportunity to try out restoring a system from scratch with nothing but BackupPC backups. I'm happy to report that the process works, with a few limitations and quirks. I've documented it here:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare Metal Restore for Microsoft Windows XP

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Stowe
Although I haven't tested it on a bare metal restore, I believe that my code that runs subinacl (and also optionally getfacl) to back up the Windows ACL's should take care of all file ownership, permissions, and ACLs (note that 'getfacl' only captures a subset of the full Windows acl's).

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare Metal Restore for Microsoft Windows XP

2010-03-08 Thread John Hudak
Perhaps I missed something in reading this, or my interpretation of a 'bare metal restore' is different from yours. My definition of 'bare metal restore' is taking essentially an image of the current disk, copying it to some media, and then using that image to do a bit-by-bit (sector-by-sector,

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare Metal Restore for Microsoft Windows XP

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Stowe
Perhaps I missed something in reading this, or my interpretation of a 'bare metal restore' is different from yours. I use the term bare metal in the sense that when the process is started, there is no software or operating system installed. In other words, I'm talking about the system being

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare Metal Restore for Microsoft Windows XP

2010-03-08 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Michael Stowe wrote at about 15:00:06 -0600 on Monday, March 8, 2010: Your method does allow for the most recent (more or less) snapshot of most of the relevant windoz files but doing an image every so often would essentially do the same thing. To clarify a bit: it allows for 100%

Re: [BackupPC-users] Bare Metal Restore for Microsoft Windows XP

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Stowe
Michael Stowe wrote at about 15:00:06 -0600 on Monday, March 8, 2010: Your method does allow for the most recent (more or less) snapshot of most of the relevant windoz files but doing an image every so often would essentially do the same thing. To clarify a bit: it allows for