Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
Les Mikesell said: >> I've used **3** different computers with wildly different hardware. On >> the host side, I've used **4** different computers (and most of them are >> high-end server hardware) with wildly different hardware. It's not >> related to a specific brand or type of hardware. > > But lots of other people including myself run rsync without errors so it > has to be something unique to your situation. That 'no route to host' > message isn't coming from rsync - it is a system error that it is > reporting. Maybe cables from a different vendor would help. This is maybe a bit off topic, but I've recently set up 3 new server. All have Intel e1000 NICs, and all had different network errors. * e1000 with 82573E chipset: wrong EEPROM value -> updated EEPROM with ethtool * all e1000 NICs: TCP Segmentation Offload not working correctly -> disabled with ethtool * all e1000 NICs: default vm.min_free_kbytes value too small -> increased vm.min_free_kbytes to 16384 Some of the errors occured everytime I did a benchmark with netpip/netio, some only occured infrequently during backup or with certain applications. Sometimes the e1000 device just hang for a couple of seconds. The interesting messages were always in the kernel log. I've also see switches behaving very strange. Maybe testing the backup with a direct connection between two computers would be a good idea too (I've not followed the thread completely, maybe this already happend...). Ralf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
Hi, Les Mikesell wrote on 31.01.2007 at 23:46:13 [Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely]: > Timothy J. Massey wrote: > > > I've used **3** different computers with wildly different hardware. On > > the host side, I've used **4** different computers (and most of them are > > high-end server hardware) with wildly different hardware. It's not > > related to a specific brand or type of hardware. > > But lots of other people including myself run rsync without errors so it > has to be something unique to your situation. well, no. You don't rule out bugs by "it works for me", not even by "it works for everyone I know". I'm sure you know that. We don't know much about the "lots of other people", do we? We know there have been no further *reports* of it on this list, but I don't remember hundreds of people reporting success with rsync on RHEL4 either. You might know about other lists, I don't. That said, I fully agree with you in that a) I don't suspect an rsync bug and > That 'no route to host' > message isn't coming from rsync - it is a system error that it is > reporting. b) that it's not an application level error. It *could* be caused by the application (incorrect setsockopt(), fcntl() or something the like), but that's not probable (in my opinion at least). > Maybe cables from a different vendor would help. I doubt it, because other applications are doing well. It doesn't seem to be hardware related to me. I suspect the kernel on the host side (backup client) or its configuration. Of course, it may be hardware specific in that different hardware does not trigger whatever is happening (and that could include the switch, maybe, perhaps), but the cables? It's not the hardware where I would start looking, especially after Tim *has* tested quite a lot of different setups. It could be stupid things like arp poisoning, a misbehaving machine on the local network or whatever. Remains the question what communication characteristics rsync has and SMB doesn't (hmm, SMB is UDP, isn't it?) that make the problem appear. Tim sent me his /etc/sysctl.conf off-list, and I find it harmless (that refered to "kernel configuration" before I added the previous paragraph). As I understand him, he's about to try out different kernels (2.4.x ?), now that he has a test setup available. Swapping kernels is *not* something I'd happily do without further thought on a production server either, and I'm sure you agree. May I summarize a few points I believe we all agree on? 1.) It's a client side problem, i.e. the backed up client seems to be the cause, not the BackupPC server machine. 2.) It is thus not a BackupPC problem. On the client only stock RHEL4 software is in use (on the test setup anyway). 3.) It is still on-topic in that it happens using BackupPC and only then. Other users of BackupPC may run into similar problems and be glad to find a solution in the archives once we find one. 4.) It's an obscure and unnerving problem. There are many things to try out, nothing obvious springing to mind, and each of us has different thoughts on what to try in which order :). My bet stays the kernel. Craig has a point with the isolated network. Either one might fix it, without leading to a definitive diagnose. Running on an isolated network as a workaround is not an option :-), but it's the easier thing to try out, and *reproducing* the problem on an isolated network would rule out quite a lot of causes. The only other idea I have in mind right now is wishing Tim good luck. Regards, Holger - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
Les writes: > Timothy J. Massey wrote: > > > rsync: read error: No route to host > > This is almost certainly a network error, unrelated to rsync or > whatever application might be running. Do other network-intense > things have similar problem? Try something like: I agree with Les. This really points to a network problem. It's time to stop changing computers and software and to test with on an isolated network with different hardware, cables and power supply from what you are currently using. Craig - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
Timothy J. Massey wrote: > I've used **3** different computers with wildly different hardware. On > the host side, I've used **4** different computers (and most of them are > high-end server hardware) with wildly different hardware. It's not > related to a specific brand or type of hardware. But lots of other people including myself run rsync without errors so it has to be something unique to your situation. That 'no route to host' message isn't coming from rsync - it is a system error that it is reporting. Maybe cables from a different vendor would help. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/01/2007 12:22:18 AM: > Timothy J. Massey wrote: > > > rsync: read error: No route to host > > This is almost certainly a network error, unrelated to rsync or whatever > application might be running. Do other network-intense things have > similar problem? Try something like: > > ssh othermachine tar --one-file-system -cf - >/dev/null > and repeat a similar command on the other system at the same time so you > have traffic both directions. I will give that a shot when I get a chance. However, remember that these computers are not just sitting there copying data via rsync. They're serving as file servers, Domino servers, web servers and other things. They do heavy disk and network traffice routinely. In fact, my emergency workaround is to use smb instead of rsync to back them up, and this works fine. While the bug may or may not be in rsync, it is only triggered by rsync. These systems do not exist in a vacuum, and they work *fine* outside of this. > > So, I am able to reproduce the error with 3 different computers, 2 > > completely different operating system families and a bunch of different > > versions. > > Do you have any that never have errors? My notebook can copy the data maybe 30% of the time. The slower computers cannot. > > Now that I'm on a disposable computer, I can start making changes to the > > host side. > > > > Anything else you want to see on the server side? I'm out of ideas > > there. I will start manipulating the host side when I get some more > > free time. > > Are you doing anything with iptables? If so, try turning them off. > Perhaps different brands of switches and NICs if possible. I've used **3** different computers with wildly different hardware. On the host side, I've used **4** different computers (and most of them are high-end server hardware) with wildly different hardware. It's not related to a specific brand or type of hardware. Tim Massey - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
Timothy J. Massey wrote: > rsync: read error: No route to host This is almost certainly a network error, unrelated to rsync or whatever application might be running. Do other network-intense things have similar problem? Try something like: ssh othermachine tar --one-file-system -cf - >/dev/null and repeat a similar command on the other system at the same time so you have traffic both directions. > So, I am able to reproduce the error with 3 different computers, 2 > completely different operating system families and a bunch of different > versions. Do you have any that never have errors? > Now that I'm on a disposable computer, I can start making changes to the > host side. > > Anything else you want to see on the server side? I'm out of ideas > there. I will start manipulating the host side when I get some more > free time. Are you doing anything with iptables? If so, try turning them off. Perhaps different brands of switches and NICs if possible. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Stop/Dequeue Safari bug
On 31/01/07, Craig Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A small snippet of javascript is used to set the action variable > when you click on the button. (In 2.x it wasn't done this way.) Wouldn't this be a bad idea in any case? Javascript dependency would mean that I can no longer control BackupPC through w3m or lynx... right? -- cheers, -ambrose - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] RHEL4 fresh load - child exited prematurely
Hello! Here's what I've done. I've loaded a brand new backup server just out of the box, and a test host running actual RHEL4 on a previously unused computer. In other words, 100% of the hardware (including the network cables and switch) are completely different. I get the same error. I have included detailed information about the systems involved at the end of this e-mail, including the BackupPC and rsync logs. I am running the latest BackupPC, the latest File:RsyncP and a standard Red Hat rsync binary. Yet, I get exactly the same error. I also decided to retest running rsync directly from the backup server, using the command-line specified for BackupPC. It turns out actual rsync *does* fail on the backup server. Here is the error: BackupPC side: # rsync --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D --links --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --one-file-system [EMAIL PROTECTED]::ROOT/* . rsync: read error: No route to host rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(177) rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (1423795 bytes read so far) rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(165) # Host side: /var/log/rsyncd.log 2007/01/31 12:16:59 [2625] rsyncd version 2.6.3 starting, listening on port 873 2007/01/31 12:17:16 [2627] name lookup failed for 172.28.16.32: Name or service not known 2007/01/31 12:17:16 [2627] rsync on . from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (172.28.16.32) 2007/01/31 12:34:15 [2627] rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4096 bytes: phase "unknown" [sender]: Connection timed out (110) 2007/01/31 12:34:15 [2627] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(909) While it still fails, actual rsync seems to copy more data faster than File::RsyncP. In fact, with only 500MB of data, I was actually able to get an entire copy done once with the real rsync binary. To eliminate the possibility of special files causing problems, and to generate more test data, I created a test directory and cp -a /usr 4 times times into the test directory, creating 2.0GB of data (and I later increased it to 4GB). It still fails. I realized that I've only used my VIA-based backup servers. Different systems *and* different operating systems, but same model of hardware. So, I grabbed another computer (IBM NetVista), loaded it with CentOS 3.8 (just like my backup servers) and ran the above command-line rsync against the test data. Same error. I then booted Knoppix 3.2 with a 2.4 kernel on the NetVista and did a command-line rsync. Same error! I then booted Knoppix 3.9 with a 2.6 kernel: same error. Knoppix 4.0.2: same error. Knoppix 5.0.1: Same error. In doing a bunch of tests (which are not all detailed here), I began to think that there might be a relationship between system speed and the amount of data that could be copied: the NetVista tended to copy more data before the failure than the VIA does (though not always). So, I booted a Knoppix 3.6 CD (3.2 doesn't support the NIC) on my notebook (IBM ThinkPad R52, Pentium M 1.86GHz, 1.5GB RAM). It too failed, but much farther: 1.3GHz. I then booted Knoppix 3.7: it failed at 700MB. I then booted Knoppix 3.9. It failed once at 550MB. I reran it, and it finished successfully. So, I doubled the size of the data to 4GB. Reran it: it failed at over 1GB. It seems that my notebook will still fail, but it's a little harder to get it to fail. So, I am able to reproduce the error with 3 different computers, 2 completely different operating system families and a bunch of different versions. Now that I'm on a disposable computer, I can start making changes to the host side. Anything else you want to see on the server side? I'm out of ideas there. I will start manipulating the host side when I get some more free time. Timothy J. Massey Detailed Server and Host Information Backup Server = Hardware: VIA EPIA-MII 1.2GHz motherboard, 512MB RAM, -or- IBM NetVista 6790-CAU (Intel Pentium 4 1.6GHz), 512MB RAM -or- IBM ThinkPad R52 (Intel Pentium M 1.86GHz), 1.5GB RAM OS: Stock CentOS 3.8 Minimal install with two additional options Web Server (all subitems unchecked) Windows Server (all subitems unchecked) Stock Knoppix 3.2 Stock Knoppix 3.6 Stock Knoppix 3.7 Stock Knoppix 3.9 Stock Knoppix 4.0.2 Stock Knoppix 5.0.1 Non-BackupPC software needed by BackupPC: CGI.pm-3.25.tar.gz compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.128.i386.rpm Encode-2.18.tar.gz par2cmdline-0.4-alt0.M24.1.i586.rpm perl-Archive-Zip-1.16-1.1.el3.rf.noarch.rpm perl-Compress-Zlib-1.42-1.el3.rf.i386.rpm perl-File-RsyncP-0.68-1.el3.rf.i386.rpm perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-17.i386.rpm perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-28.noarch.rpm perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6.noarch.rpm perl-suidperl-5.8.0-94.EL3.i386.rpm perl-URI-1.21-7.noarch.rpm perl-XML-Parser-2.31-16.EL3.i386.rpm p
Re: [BackupPC-users] Stop/Dequeue Safari bug
James writes:
> The stop/Dequeue process is not working for me in safari (as in
> absolutely nothing happens), I noticed this with Start Backup option
> as well. However, BackupPC began backing the host up after I restarted
> BackupPC.
>
> BackupPC version: 3.0
> OS of Browser that showed bug: OSX 10.5, Safari 3.0
>
> -) I did a quick check of the usual suspects such as apache logs,
> backuppc logs and didn't see any references.
>
> -) I checked the url strings in the browsers and got this in safari:
>
> BackupPC_Admin?host=localhost&action=
A small snippet of javascript is used to set the action variable
when you click on the button. (In 2.x it wasn't done this way.)
Looks like this doesn't work:
Please try this:
- look at the html source (on the stop backup page) and verify that
$In{action} is replaced by a non-empty string (eg: Stop_Dequeue_Backup).
- If it is empty then the problem is prior to getting to this page.
Go back a page and look at the source there.
- If it is non-empty, could javascript be disabled on your browser?
If you can't make progress I'll try it out on Safari too.
Craig
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Re: [BackupPC-users] 2.1 versus 3.0
James Ward wrote: > it looks like they're going to all get started at the same time again > due to waiting on the nightly process to complete after the longest > of these backups. > > Does version 3 get me away from this scenario? Yes. Version 3 doesn't need nightly processing to be mutually exclusive to backups. They should fire off whenever they're due to start. However, if you having trouble with one taking more than 24 hours, and the period between backups is less than this, it will pretty much always be backing up those machines and falling further behind. Since you mention having multiple backup servers, perhaps putting the largest file server hosts onto different backuppc servers would help? > And on my other > server that's backing up 200 machines (some remote), will it be able > to just backup 24x7 with version 3? Right now it spends most of > every day from the wee hours until the afternoon doing the nightly > cleanup. > Again, this should be alleviated in version 3. Even if the processing is still lengthy, it should not bunch up your backups anymore, so theoretically, the same server has greater capacity in version 3 than in version 2. JH - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 2.1 versus 3.0
On 01/31 02:52 , James Ward wrote:
> I have three servers (2.x) in production. One of them is backing up
> three big fileservers. Any one of these backups can take more than
> 24 hours. I recently started full backups of each of the servers on
> different days to see if I could stagger the network load, but it
> looks like they're going to all get started at the same time again
> due to waiting on the nightly process to complete after the longest
> of these backups.
would changing the IncrPeriod to greater than 24 hours help?
the default is:
$Conf{IncrPeriod} = 0.97;
this is basically what causes backups to go off once a day.
perhaps for these machines you can set this to 1.47, or 1.97; so they would
get backed up once every day and a half or two days?
You probably also want to change:
$Conf{MaxBackups} = 4;
to something lower. that's the number of backups which will run
simultaneously. I've found that the default of '4' is too high for most
backup servers, and that '2' is a better value in most cases.
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[BackupPC-users] 2.1 versus 3.0
I have three servers (2.x) in production. One of them is backing up three big fileservers. Any one of these backups can take more than 24 hours. I recently started full backups of each of the servers on different days to see if I could stagger the network load, but it looks like they're going to all get started at the same time again due to waiting on the nightly process to complete after the longest of these backups. Does version 3 get me away from this scenario? And on my other server that's backing up 200 machines (some remote), will it be able to just backup 24x7 with version 3? Right now it spends most of every day from the wee hours until the afternoon doing the nightly cleanup. Thanks in advance, James - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Stop/Dequeue Safari bug
The stop/Dequeue process is not working for me in safari (as in absolutely nothing happens), I noticed this with Start Backup option as well. However, BackupPC began backing the host up after I restarted BackupPC. BackupPC version: 3.0 OS of Browser that showed bug: OSX 10.5, Safari 3.0 -) I did a quick check of the usual suspects such as apache logs, backuppc logs and didn't see any references. -) I checked the url strings in the browsers and got this in safari: BackupPC_Admin?host=localhost&action= (page remained on the localhost default page) And this in FireFox: http://airto.hosted.ats.ucla.edu:8080/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin?host=localhost&action=Stop_Dequeue_Backup So it seems a string/option is being dropped somewhere. I'll dig deeper after setting up backuppc for my clients via firefox. James A. Kyle UCLA Brain Mapping Center AIM: krunk337 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC exclusion per-share usin g arrays in $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}
* On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 17:16 -0600, John Buttery wrote:
>>[stuff about backups aborting with "signal=ALRM" errors]
* On Tuesday 30 January 2007 20:39, Travis Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Travis Fraser) wrote:
>Would you be running into problems because the other rsync share names
> are included in "/"?
You know, sometimes you don't see the forest for the trees. I guess
Eric Raymond was right when he said that all problems are shallow given
a sufficiently high number of eyeballs.[1] Thanks.
The other machines being backed up do have a separate /var partition,
so this is probably the issue. I'm going to go ahead and move
$Conf{RsyncShareName} into the per-host config as well; I assume this
is necessary?
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC exclusion per-share using arrays in $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}
* On Tuesday 30 January 2007 18:14, Holger Parplies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Holger Parplies) wrote:
>seems correct, but: do your RsyncArgs include --one-file-system (or
> -x)? If not, the files you are trying to exclude might be included in
> unexpected ways (eg. /log/maillog relative to /var would not be
> excluded if seen as /var/log/maillog relative to /). I'm not exactly
> sure though, what would happen if you backed up ['/', '/usr', '/var',
> '/home'] *without* --one-file-system.
Sorry, I should have included that. Yes, that argument is there (it
was already there). The RsyncArgs setting is otherwise unchanged from
the default (in other words, we just uncommented that line).
>[explanation of the uses of trailing '/' characters in directory names]
Cool, thanks for explaining that so clearly.
>[stuff about wildcards]
Ditto. :)
>[stuff about leading '/' characters in per-share exclude patterns]
This is the one I was really hoping to get an answer on. Once again,
thanks for the complete explanation.
>[stuff about increasing ClientTimeout to avoid SIGALRM aborts]
Yeah, that seems to be the general wisdom, and probably would have
fixed it for me (I did some web searches and found that stuff and tried
it before emailing) if I hadn't already written a fatal flaw into my
per-host config file. See my next reply (to Travis Fraser). :)
Note to BackupPC "powers that be": you may want to consider taking the
substantive content out of the email that this is a reply to
(message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) and putting it
in the main documentation. Of particular use, I think, would be a
fleshed-out example of a full-blown array exclude with multiple shares
and wildcards to demonstrate all the permutations. Perhaps something
like this (note: I don't know enough about perl to know if you're
allowed to put comments inline like that, so this may or may not be a
valid config fragment):
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
'/' => [
'/dev/', ## /dev is actually safe to back up if you like, though
'/tmp/',
'mnt/', ## I have multiple directories called 'mnt' throughout the
filesystem, don't want to back up any of them
'/floppy/',
'/cdrom/',
'/proc/',
'/sys/',
'/net/',
'/media/'
],
'/var' => [
## We use leading '/' characters here so the paths are all anchored to
the top of the share
'/log/maillog',
'/lib/mysql/data/',
'/lib/mysql/mysql/',
'/log/mysql/mysql.log',
'/log/mysql/mysql-bin*',
'/spool/exim4/',
'/something' ## This will exclude 'something' regardless of whether
it's a file or directory, since there's no trailing '/'
],
};
--
John Buttery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
System Administrator
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc V3.0.0
>I did the upgrade from a beta version yesterday and everything worked fine >last night. Check that you restarted the backuppc daemon after the backup >and that you afterwards restarted httpd. Restarting the httpd corrected it. Thanks Peter - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Suggestion for cygwin-rsyncd
Hello! I got bitten last week by the UTF-8/Cygwin issue: I was backing up a Windows 2000 server that serves files for a Mac network. Here is a link to a previous mail about this: http://www.mail-archive.com/backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03891.html I would suggest that instead of packaging cygwin-rsyncd with the standard cygwin1.dll, why not include the UTF-8 DLL? That way, someone else doesn't have to figure this out from scratch all over again? http://www.okisoft.co.jp/esc/utf8-cygwin/ Timothy J. Massey - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] OSX extended atribute problems
And I have been using xtar on the OSX clients for years with no problems (10.2.x - 10.4.8). You may want to try it. cheers, ski Torsten Sadowski wrote: >> What do i miss if I don't backup extended attributes? >> >> John >> > You miss the Resource Fork which will render all older MacOS (ie Classic) > programs unusable and might even destroy data files of those programs. > > Incidentally I am using backuppc 2.1.2 with OSX 10.4 and native tar without > any big problems. The biggest error count is 12 for fulls (ca 70GB) and > incrementals are as fast as can be expected. What do you use as a share name? > > Cheers, Torsten > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > -- "When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it connected to the entire universe"John Muir Chris "Ski" Kacoroski, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 206-501-9803 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] retrieve space from old deleted backups
Hi, I manually deleted an old backup with rm, now I want to retrieve the free space of deleted directory so I run /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_nightly 0 255, but I cant see any free space, what I miss ? bye, lv - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] OSX extended atribute problems
> What do i miss if I don't backup extended attributes? > > John > You miss the Resource Fork which will render all older MacOS (ie Classic) programs unusable and might even destroy data files of those programs. Incidentally I am using backuppc 2.1.2 with OSX 10.4 and native tar without any big problems. The biggest error count is 12 for fulls (ca 70GB) and incrementals are as fast as can be expected. What do you use as a share name? Cheers, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc V3.0.0
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:00, Peter Bloomfield wrote: > Dear All, > > > I upgraded Backuppc to version 3.0.0 from 2.1.3 yesterday, and since > the update I am getting a number of errors when trying to view some of > the pages. These are the errors I am seeing > > Select current log files > Undefined subroutine &BackupPC::CGI::View::action called at > /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC/BackupPC_Admin line 109. > > Select old log files > Can't locate object method "sortedPCLogFiles" via package > "BackupPC::Lib" at /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/CGI/LOGlist.pm line > 59. > > Select Host Configuration > Global symbol "$LogDir" requires explicit package name at > /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/CGI/View.pm line 100. Compilation > failed in require at /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC/BackupPC_Admin line 107. > > Select Hosts File > Undefined subroutine &BackupPC::CGI::View::action called at > /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC/BackupPC_Admin line 109. > > Select Documentation > Undefined subroutine &BackupPC::CGI::View::action called at > /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC/BackupPC_Admin line 109. > > I can back up machines, and the browse backups, but it is the above I > have messed up. Can anyone point me in the direction to correct this, > > Many thanks in advance > > Peter > I did the upgrade from a beta version yesterday and everything worked fine last night. Check that you restarted the backuppc daemon after the backup and that you afterwards restarted httpd. Tony > --- >-- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn > cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVD >EV ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- Tony Molloy. System Manager. Dept. of Comp. Sci. University of Limerick - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
