[BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Baker

Almost every morning, I come into the server room and find that my BackupPC
server has been rebooted. I log it in and leave it logged in every day. When
I get back in the morning, the login screen is there.

Does anyone have any explanations as to why? We are running on Fedora Core
9. We are not running the latest kernel because when I last tried a kernel
upgrade, our external hard drive no longer worked after the upgrade.


Chris Baker -- cba...@intera.com
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-Original Message-
From: Joe Bordes [mailto:j...@tsolucio.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
To: General list for user discussion,questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up over the Internet

Hi,

You could try noip.com services, open a couple of rsync ports on your router
and configure BackupPC to use them.

Joe
TSolucio

Jeremy H. Griffith escribió:
 Hi all!  I have a small LAN in Hillsboro, OR, which is connected to 
 the Net though a (NAT) router provided by Verizon.  The IP on the Net 
 side is variable.

 My backup server is in Los Angeles, and has its own static IP.  It's a 
 dedicated server, using FreeBSD, and I had no problem with backuppc 
 setup on it.

 How can I tell backuppc to access systems on my LAN?
 I'd like to back up two hosts on it, one Vista Home (my wife's), the 
 other Win2K Pro.  I'll probably add a Linux one for development soon 
 too.

 I suspect I need to set up a VPN; if so, what VPN software do you 
 recommend?

 Or can the LAN systems log in to backuppc over the Net to start the 
 process?

 Or is this beyond backuppc's area?  In that case, what other software 
 might do the job?

 I'm a C++ programmer, but my perl skills are, ahem, rudimentary.

 Thanks!

 -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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[BackupPC-users] 38GB file backup is hanging backuppc.

2009-02-06 Thread John Rouillard
Hi all:

Having a problem with backuppc running over ssh with rsync.

I am backing up a 38GB file daily (database dump). There were some
changes on the database server, so I started a new full dump. After
two days (40+ hours) it had still not completed. This is over a GB
network link. I restarted the full dump thinking it had gotten hung.

I tried to find the partly written file on the backup server, and
found some very odd things.

The BackupPC_dump perl process (pid 16784) is showing this sequence in
strace:

  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  select(16, [11], NULL, [11], NULL)  = 1 (in [11])
  read(11, BjGq8Ax1SfiCcrVqaRuPzV5js\n /c3By..., 65536) = 8188
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  select(16, [11], NULL, [11], NULL)  = 1 (in [11])
  read(11, \374\17\0\7tQsU3/6Vsd/9z\n 5/k/8AH6xrT/X..., 65536) = 12288
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  select(16, [11], NULL, [11], NULL)  = 1 (in [11])
  read(11, \374\17\0\7HvnkYehOv7k\n Dz+T/vuo5EevevG..., 65536) = 12288
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800
  alarm(172800)   = 172800

lsof on that process shows the following file descriptors:

  BackupPC_ 16784 backup0w   CHR1,3  1937 /dev/null
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup1w  FIFO0,6 846787883 pipe
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup2w  FIFO0,6 846787883 pipe
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup3u  IPv4  846787907   TCP 
backup:59406-ldap:ldaps(ESTABLISHED)
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup4w   REG9,22171  47693861
 /backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/LOG.022009
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup5w   REG9,2   0  47695023
 /backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/XferLOG.z
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup6w   REG9,22228  47695267
 /backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/NewFileList
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup7w   REG9,2  8634251394  36864007
 
/backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/new/f%2fdata%2fbak/ffedora-ds/fcurrent/fuserRoot/fid2entry.db4
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup8u   REG9,2 37303115776  34717713
 /backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/new/f%2fdata%2fbak/RStmp
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup9u  unix 0xf6f12c80 846791450 socket
  BackupPC_ 16784 backup   11u  unix 0xf6835c80 846791422 socket

ls -l of the file on file descriptor 7: 

   -rw-r- 1 backup dev 8634251394 Feb  6 15:10
 
/backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/new/f%2fdata%2fbak/ffedora-ds/fcurrent/fuserRoot/fid2entry.db4

while the one on fd 8 shows:

   -rw-r- 1 backup dev 37303115776 Feb  5 18:34
 /backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/new/f%2fdata%2fbak/RStmp

What is the RStmp file? That one grew pretty quickly to it's current
size given the start time of the backup (18:08 on feb 5). If I run
file (1) against that file it identifies it as

  /backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/new/f%2fdata%2fbak/RStmp:
  Berkeley DB (Btree, version 9, native byte-order)

While file on the fid2entry.db4 file shows:

  
/backup-pc/pc/ldap01.bos1.renesys.com/new/f%2fdata%2fbak/ffedora-ds/fcurrent/fuserRoot/fid2entry.db4:
 data

I could almost believ that I looking at the actual rsynced data file
(in RStmp) which is a little shorter than the source file possibly due
to sparse file compression or something that makes it a bit shorter by
suppressing blocks of nulls? But running a cmp -l between the source
file and the RStmp file shows differences before the end of the RStmp
file.

The backup server has 8GB of memory available, is almost 100% idle and
I am seeing no I/O wait in top. I don't see the perl/BackupPC_dump
process showing up in the top output either.  The server is running
centos 5.2 on an ext3 filesystem.

The rsync on the host being backed up looks like:

  write(1, \374\17\0\7, 4)  = 4
  select(2, NULL, [1], [1], {60, 0})  = 1 (out [1], left {60, 0})
  write(1,  fLv/BPD4v6neeJr74fazcy31hf2r3em..., 4092) = 4092
  select(2, NULL, [1], [1], {60, 0})  = 1 (out [1], left {60, 0})
  write(1, \374\17\0\7, 4)  = 4
  select(2, NULL, [1], [1], {60, 0})  = 1 (out [1], left {60, 0})
  write(1, \266.\27\0\1\0\346\37\0\7dn: nsuniqueid=4ed5424..., 4092) =
  4092
  select(2, NULL, [1], [1], {60, 0})  = 1 (out [1], left {60, 0})
  write(1, \374\17\0\7, 4)  = 4
  select(2, NULL, [1], [1], {60, 0})  = 1 (out [1], left {60, 0})
  write(1, DkmvilSqKpyWd+x9aqkHHmjJHg3x28V/..., 4092) = 4092
  select(2, NULL, [1], [1], {60, 0})  = 0 (Timeout)
  

Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Stephen Joyce
Not to be simplistic, but have you checked the server's logs?

PS. It's best to compose a new message rather than just change the subject 
in an existing thread.

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Chris Baker wrote:

 Almost every morning, I come into the server room and find that my BackupPC
 server has been rebooted. I log it in and leave it logged in every day. When
 I get back in the morning, the login screen is there.

 Does anyone have any explanations as to why? We are running on Fedora Core
 9. We are not running the latest kernel because when I last tried a kernel
 upgrade, our external hard drive no longer worked after the upgrade.


 Chris Baker -- cba...@intera.com
 systems administrator
 INTERA -- 512-425-2006

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 From: Joe Bordes [mailto:j...@tsolucio.com]
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
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 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up over the Internet

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Baker

 


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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Joyce [mailto:step...@physics.unc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:46 AM
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Which logs should I check? And what should I look for in these logs? I do
know where the logs are on the system.

Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

Not to be simplistic, but have you checked the server's logs?

PS. It's best to compose a new message rather than just change the subject
in an existing thread.

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Chris Baker wrote:

 Almost every morning, I come into the server room and find that my 
 BackupPC server has been rebooted. I log it in and leave it logged in 
 every day. When I get back in the morning, the login screen is there.

 Does anyone have any explanations as to why? We are running on Fedora 
 Core 9. We are not running the latest kernel because when I last tried 
 a kernel upgrade, our external hard drive no longer worked after the
upgrade.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] 38GB file backup is hanging backuppc.

2009-02-06 Thread John Rouillard
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 08:04:57AM -0800, Michael L. Barrow wrote in a
non-list copied email:
In my experience, rsync doesn't play nice with really big files for
incremental updates. I recommend that you have a unique filename so
that you basically end up with a full backup each time around.

In this problem I am backing up on the same lan, in production it will
be backed up offsite across a slow wan, so compression and rsync
algorithms will be key.

It was working well enough before the last major database change, so I
concur that large difference in a large file appear to be causing
issues, but it looks like the problem is on the backuppc end.

Hmm, maybe if I change the rsync command for that host to include
--whole-file I can get a new baseline. Does anybody know if the rsync
perl library used by BackupPC can handle whole-file mode?

Usually the incremental changes between the files are under 100MB of
the 36GB file which makes doing daily backups possible.

Using just plain rsync (2.x) on both sides across the wan works fine
and results in a huge speedup.

But thanks for the caution. That gives me another avenue to test at
least although it may result in having to dump backupc.

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[BackupPC-users] protocol negotiation failed

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Vogt
I've got one Vista server that's sending back a strange smb error:

 

protocol negotiation failed

 

I've tried turning the local firewall off with the same result.

 

SMB version is 3.0.23.

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Setting UP the CGI Interface

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Robertson
Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 Hello list,

 I am new but I am kind of old hand.

Haven't seen you on the Squid-Users list in a while...  :o)

 Surprisingly, I am not able to get the CGI interface to show up things 
 as beautifully as I see in the screenshots on the website and I wonder 
 what I am missing.

 My BackupPC_Admin is in /usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin/ and it is 
 owned by backuppc:www.
 The images from BackupPC are in /usr/local/www/apache22/icons/BackupPC

 In config.pl, I have the following:

 $Conf{ServerHost} = 'gw.crownkenya.com http://gw.crownkenya.com';
 $Conf{CgiDir} = '/usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin';
 $Conf{CgiImageDir}= '/usr/local/www/apache22/icons/BackupPC';
 $Conf{CgiImageDirURL}  = '/BackupPC';

 Going to http://$Conf{ServerHost}/BackupPC/ displays all the images.

 I could have the images inside /usr/local/www/apache22/icons/ but even 
 that did not work!

 Is there someone who encountered such a problem and managed to solve it??

When I surf to http://gw.crownkenya.com/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin, things 
look fine...  Are you trying a different URL?



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Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Robertson
Chris Baker wrote:
 Which logs should I check? 

/var/log/messages

 And what should I look for in these logs?

Run the command dmesg (first, man dmesg so you know what this command 
does) and take a look at the output.  This is the bootup message and 
should be replicated in /var/log/messages.  Take a look at the entries 
above for clues as to why your server is restarting.  The last log entry 
before the dmesg output should be something along the lines of Kernel 
log daemon terminating. and should be proceeded by evidence of exiting 
processes.  If not, you probably have power or hardware problems.  If 
you do see evidence of a graceful restart, at least you know about when 
it's happening.  Start looking through /etc/cron.* and /etc/crontab for 
jobs that run around that time.

  I do
 know where the logs are on the system.
   

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Jack Coats
check any log files you find in /var/log too!  messages is a good one to 
start with, but depending on the
exact configuration, you might find other log files there too.

Chris Robertson wrote:
 Chris Baker wrote:
   
 Which logs should I check? 
 

 /var/log/messages

   
 And what should I look for in these logs?
 

 Run the command dmesg (first, man dmesg so you know what this command 
 does) and take a look at the output.  This is the bootup message and 
 should be replicated in /var/log/messages.  Take a look at the entries 
 above for clues as to why your server is restarting.  The last log entry 
 before the dmesg output should be something along the lines of Kernel 
 log daemon terminating. and should be proceeded by evidence of exiting 
 processes.  If not, you probably have power or hardware problems.  If 
 you do see evidence of a graceful restart, at least you know about when 
 it's happening.  Start looking through /etc/cron.* and /etc/crontab for 
 jobs that run around that time.

   
  I do
 know where the logs are on the system.
   
 

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Baker

That was a great answer. The server is rebooting every morning at 7:00. I
will see what I can find out from that. 


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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

Chris Baker wrote:
 Which logs should I check? 

/var/log/messages

 And what should I look for in these logs?

Run the command dmesg (first, man dmesg so you know what this command
does) and take a look at the output.  This is the bootup message and should
be replicated in /var/log/messages.  Take a look at the entries above for
clues as to why your server is restarting.  The last log entry before the
dmesg output should be something along the lines of Kernel log daemon
terminating. and should be proceeded by evidence of exiting processes.  If
not, you probably have power or hardware problems.  If you do see evidence
of a graceful restart, at least you know about when it's happening.  Start
looking through /etc/cron.* and /etc/crontab for jobs that run around that
time.

  I do
 know where the logs are on the system.
   

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly

2009-02-06 Thread Mark Maciolek
hi,

Check the BIOS for auto stop/start times or awake on lan settings.

Mark

Chris Baker wrote:
 That was a great answer. The server is rebooting every morning at 7:00. I
 will see what I can find out from that. 
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Robertson [mailto:crobert...@gci.net] 
 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:58 PM
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly
 
 Chris Baker wrote:
 Which logs should I check? 
 
 /var/log/messages
 
 And what should I look for in these logs?
 
 Run the command dmesg (first, man dmesg so you know what this command
 does) and take a look at the output.  This is the bootup message and should
 be replicated in /var/log/messages.  Take a look at the entries above for
 clues as to why your server is restarting.  The last log entry before the
 dmesg output should be something along the lines of Kernel log daemon
 terminating. and should be proceeded by evidence of exiting processes.  If
 not, you probably have power or hardware problems.  If you do see evidence
 of a graceful restart, at least you know about when it's happening.  Start
 looking through /etc/cron.* and /etc/crontab for jobs that run around that
 time.
 
  I do
 know where the logs are on the system.
   
 
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[BackupPC-users] Is a switch between different transfer methods possible?

2009-02-06 Thread Matthias Meyer
I use rsyncd to backup my (Windows) clients.
The first backup of each client needs a really long time.

Would it be faster if I use smb or tar for the initial backup?
Is it possible to switch back to rsyncd after this initial backup?
Would I maintained all the benefits of rsyncd starting with the 2nd backup?

Thanks
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Re: [BackupPC-users] how does backuppc handle DBs

2009-02-06 Thread Nick Smith
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Nick Smith nick.smit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a couple clients backup nightly over the internet.
 I seem to be doubting if the backups are actually being completed 
 successfully.
 Backuppc tells me they are, but the reason im questioning is because
 it is suppose
 to backup 10gigs a night (their sql db changes daily) and backup
 completes in 40mins
 over a max connection of 600kb.  The backup results do say its getting
 about 50%
 compression and the backup is only 5gigs when it complete.

 How does backuppc handle databases? does it take just whats changed or if the 
 DB
 changes does it have to backup the entire thing again?

 ive gotten 14 complete full backups (one a day) and they all have the
 same results
 completed successfully and are about 10gigs before compression and pooling.

 its there a way i can make sure that things are working as planned?

 i mean without doing a restore and testing what its backing up.

 i just dont want to think im getting good backups when im really not.

 im using scripts that use volume shadow to get backups of their windows 
 servers
 after hours.

 it just seems like the backups are going way to fast with the speed of
 the connection
 and the size of the data.

 thanks for any light you can shed on the subject.

and to add to my own post im doing these backups over a pfsense
firewall on both sides and the stats for the last 4 hours
(when the 10gig backup was supposedly preformed), the output
transmitted on the WAN was only 50megs. so something
isnt working correctly here.

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[BackupPC-users] how does backuppc handle DBs

2009-02-06 Thread Nick Smith
I have a couple clients backup nightly over the internet.
I seem to be doubting if the backups are actually being completed successfully.
Backuppc tells me they are, but the reason im questioning is because
it is suppose
to backup 10gigs a night (their sql db changes daily) and backup
completes in 40mins
over a max connection of 600kb.  The backup results do say its getting
about 50%
compression and the backup is only 5gigs when it complete.

How does backuppc handle databases? does it take just whats changed or if the DB
changes does it have to backup the entire thing again?

ive gotten 14 complete full backups (one a day) and they all have the
same results
completed successfully and are about 10gigs before compression and pooling.

its there a way i can make sure that things are working as planned?

i mean without doing a restore and testing what its backing up.

i just dont want to think im getting good backups when im really not.

im using scripts that use volume shadow to get backups of their windows servers
after hours.

it just seems like the backups are going way to fast with the speed of
the connection
and the size of the data.

thanks for any light you can shed on the subject.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] how does backuppc handle DBs

2009-02-06 Thread mark
I make my mysql servers dump their DB's to a file before running BackupPC.

Quoting Nick Smith nick.smit...@gmail.com:

 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Nick Smith nick.smit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a couple clients backup nightly over the internet.
 I seem to be doubting if the backups are actually being completed  
 successfully.
 Backuppc tells me they are, but the reason im questioning is because
 it is suppose
 to backup 10gigs a night (their sql db changes daily) and backup
 completes in 40mins
 over a max connection of 600kb.  The backup results do say its getting
 about 50%
 compression and the backup is only 5gigs when it complete.

 How does backuppc handle databases? does it take just whats changed  
 or if the DB
 changes does it have to backup the entire thing again?

 ive gotten 14 complete full backups (one a day) and they all have the
 same results
 completed successfully and are about 10gigs before compression and pooling.

 its there a way i can make sure that things are working as planned?

 i mean without doing a restore and testing what its backing up.

 i just dont want to think im getting good backups when im really not.

 im using scripts that use volume shadow to get backups of their  
 windows servers
 after hours.

 it just seems like the backups are going way to fast with the speed of
 the connection
 and the size of the data.

 thanks for any light you can shed on the subject.

 and to add to my own post im doing these backups over a pfsense
 firewall on both sides and the stats for the last 4 hours
 (when the 10gig backup was supposedly preformed), the output
 transmitted on the WAN was only 50megs. so something
 isnt working correctly here.

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