Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.2 released

2017-05-10 Thread daveinredm...@excite.com 
Thanx for the suggestion, but no. The reason I want to change from Ubuntu to 
OpenSUSE is that I'm using Leap on the desktops and I was thinking that 
consolidation on a sinbgle OS would be advantageous. If I can't go to Leap, I 
will likely upgrade the current Ubuntu OS to the latest LTS and then look at 
moving from BackupPC v3 to v4. 

Dave

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From: "Richard Shaw" [hobbes1...@gmail.com]
Date: 05/10/2017 15:47
To: "General list for user discussion,
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.2 released

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Replying just to the user list...

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:36 PM, daveinredm...@excite.com <
daveinredm...@excite.com> wrote:

> Has anyone successfully installed v4.1.2 on OpenSUSE Leap 42.2??? I am
> considering migrating my sever from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE, but have not been
> able to successfully install BackupPC. It is running, but out of control -
> i.e. the log file updates daily but I have no web interface ("There is
> either no index document or the directory is read-protected. "), thus an
> Apache problem??


If you're willing to try Suse, an RPM based distro, then why not CentOS?

I'm actively supporting the package through my COPR[1].

You just do a CentOS install, enable the extras and Fedora EPEL
repositories...

Per https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

Extras is enabled by default on CentOS and has instructions for installing
Fedora EPEL

Then download the repo file from my COPR into /etc/yum.repo.d/

Then:

yum install BackupPC

Look at the readme provided in the package for configuration instructions.

Let me know if you attempt this and let me know if I missed anything so I
can update the package.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.2 released

2017-05-10 Thread Richard Shaw 
Replying just to the user list...

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:36 PM, daveinredm...@excite.com <
daveinredm...@excite.com> wrote:

> Has anyone successfully installed v4.1.2 on OpenSUSE Leap 42.2??? I am
> considering migrating my sever from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE, but have not been
> able to successfully install BackupPC. It is running, but out of control -
> i.e. the log file updates daily but I have no web interface ("There is
> either no index document or the directory is read-protected. "), thus an
> Apache problem??


If you're willing to try Suse, an RPM based distro, then why not CentOS?

I'm actively supporting the package through my COPR[1].

You just do a CentOS install, enable the extras and Fedora EPEL
repositories...

Per https://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

Extras is enabled by default on CentOS and has instructions for installing
Fedora EPEL

Then download the repo file from my COPR into /etc/yum.repo.d/

Then:

yum install BackupPC

Look at the readme provided in the package for configuration instructions.

Let me know if you attempt this and let me know if I missed anything so I
can update the package.

Thanks,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.2 released

2017-05-10 Thread daveinredm...@excite.com 
Has anyone successfully installed v4.1.2 on OpenSUSE Leap 42.2??? I am 
considering migrating my sever from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE, but have not been able 
to successfully install BackupPC. It is running, but out of control - i.e. the 
log file updates daily but I have no web interface ("There is either no index 
document or the directory is read-protected. "), thus an Apache problem??

Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Date: 05/02/2017 18:15
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Subject: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.2 released

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BackupPC 4.1.2 
has been released on Github.

BackupPC 4.1.2 is a bug fix release, with a few minor new features.  The
changes are listed below.

Thanks to everyone who helped track down bugs and/or provided pull requests.

Craig

   - Merged pull requests: #93, #94, #97, #102
   - Fixed NetBios lookup of hosts, reported by Doug Lytle.
   - Fixed bin/BackupPC_tarExtract and lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Ftp.pm in case
   where a directory tree is no longer present in a new backup.  Reported by
   Jens Potthast and Matt Bedynek.
   - Fixed SCGI when BackupPC is run in non-daemon mode (which is the
   systemd default starting in 4.1.1).
   - $Conf{ClientNameAlias} can now be an array of hostnames; the first one
   that succeeds ping is used for the backup or restore.  From martintamare
   (#94).
   - Fixed status link in SCGI server, improved the navigation tab (now it
   doesn't scroll) and some css/html cleanup; from Nicholas Hall (#97).
   - Fixed logic in bin/BackupPC_dump for $Conf{FixedIPNetBiosNameCheck} to
   prevent netbios name check; from Nicholas Hall (#102).
   - Fixed config editor bug in sub-entries of hash config variables,
   related to SCGI.
   - Fixed rsync restore of a top-level directory when the share is "/",
   reported by Ray Frush.
   - Increased $Conf{FullKeepCnt}[0] by 1 in expiry calculations, so the
   most recent filled backup effectively isn't counted for expiry.  This
   improves the behavior, particularly when $Conf{FullKeepCnt} = 1.
   - Rsync transfers now use --timeout=$Conf{ClientTimeout} instead of
   using an alarm based on rsync log output, suggested by ACR.
   - added --delete-excluded and --one-file-system to $Conf{RsyncArgs}.
   - Removed extra quotes from $Conf{CgiURL} in configure.pl from Alexander
   Moisseev (#93).  Also added $DestDir to some print messages in
   configure.pl.
   - BackupPC_dump and BackupPC_restore now support the -p option to turn
   off progress reports.  The old -p (inplace) option to BackupPC_tarExtract
   is now -P.
   - Backup directory mtime is now set to the backup endTime.
   - Updated FSF address in cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin, reported by TomCat42
   (#91).
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC v4 for Fedora / EPEL Update

2017-05-10 Thread Richard Shaw 
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Bob Katz  wrote:

> On 5/10/17 8:29 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Bob Katz  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Richard and list!
>>
>> Does the EPEL and COPR installer for backuppc recognize that backuppc has
>> already been installed and overwrite it? I don't mind overwriting. I just
>> want to know if the installer covers existing installs. I've already
>> installed the modified rsync, all the Perl dependencies, etc. I've run the
>> Perl install script as well, following along with
>>
>
> Yes, it will work like any other upgrade / package update, it's not a
> parallel installable package.
>
>
> Got it. GOTHAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS HAD ME MAKE A NEW USER "BACKUPPC" AND RUN
> APACHE IN IT, AND DO A LOT OF STUFF FROM WITHIN ROOT. Should I delete the
> new user, change the Apache user back to default, and as much as possible
> undo all of the steps he gave? Any harm in leaving the Perl modules intact
> and the modified Rsync in the bin folder? I wouldn't know how to uninstall
> a Perl module anyway off the top of my head.
>

You should no longer need to modify rsync or anything so definitely remote
that. The package will make sure the needed perl modules are installed. If
you installed them via CPAN then you should probably attempt to uninstall
them, if you just installed packages via yum then it doesn't matter.



> Ordinarily I would wipe this Redhat machine and start from scratch but I
> spent a whole day installing an old driver for my now-obsolete RAID card.
> It's not that old a card, it was working fine in Windows. EOL for
> hardware comes much too soon :-(.  and I'm working on a script to send mail
> when the RAID controller has problems. And in that case if I start from
> scratch I guess I would switch to Debian. :-)
>
>
> Yes, probably best to wipe anything you've done manually. The readme in
> the package has basic instructions on what you'll need to do after package
> install.
>
> I'm not sure if you mentioned what version you are running but the package
> should install a SysV init script on EL 6 and the Systemd service file on
> EL 7.
>
>
> I'm not running EL yet at all, not fully understanding your syntax above
> :-)
>

Ok, the "Redhat" statement bit me again, it makes me think of RHEL since
Fedora != Redhat. Fedora has been on systemd for some time so that is taken
care of by the package.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC v4 for Fedora / EPEL Update

2017-05-10 Thread Bob Katz 

On 5/10/17 8:29 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Bob Katz > wrote:


Thanks, Richard and list!

Does the EPEL and COPR installer for backuppc recognize that
backuppc has already been installed and overwrite it? I don't mind
overwriting. I just want to know if the installer covers existing
installs. I've already  installed the modified rsync, all the Perl
dependencies, etc. I've run the Perl install script as well,
following along with


Yes, it will work like any other upgrade / package update, it's not a 
parallel installable package.


Got it. GOTHAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS HAD ME MAKE A NEW USER "BACKUPPC" AND 
RUN APACHE IN IT, AND DO A LOT OF STUFF FROM WITHIN ROOT. Should I 
delete the new user, change the Apache user back to default, and as much 
as possible undo all of the steps he gave? Any harm in leaving the Perl 
modules intact and the modified Rsync in the bin folder? I wouldn't know 
how to uninstall a Perl module anyway off the top of my head.


Ordinarily I would wipe this Redhat machine and start from scratch but I 
spent a whole day installing an old driver for my now-obsolete RAID 
card. It's not that old a card, it was working fine in Windows. EOL 
for hardware comes much too soon :-(.  and I'm working on a script to 
send mail when the RAID controller has problems. And in that case if I 
start from scratch I guess I would switch to Debian. :-)



Yes, probably best to wipe anything you've done manually. The readme 
in the package has basic instructions on what you'll need to do after 
package install.


I'm not sure if you mentioned what version you are running but the 
package should install a SysV init script on EL 6 and the Systemd 
service file on EL 7.




I'm not running EL yet at all, not fully understanding your syntax 
above  :-)



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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC v4 for Fedora / EPEL Update

2017-05-10 Thread Richard Shaw 
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Les Mikesell  wrote:

>
> Can't you name the package backuppc4 so they can have overlapping life
> spans and updates?   Seems safer than putting a same-named package in
> a different repo where a future update will probably accidentally pull
> in some other same-named package and clobber the one you wanted to
> keep.


I could create a new package but that would require a package review and
even after all the work I've done cleaning up the package after taking over
maintenance on it I'm doubtful it would pass the current packaging
guidelines.

In either case the end user would be required to enable the Fedora EPEL
repository, it's not much more of a hurdle to install my COPR for it.
Additionally an update sits in updates-testing for two weeks before it can
be pushed to stable which means there would be a significant delay between
a new release and the end user getting it. Maybe after development
stabilizes a bit more it may be worth going through the effort.

Thanks,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC v4 for Fedora / EPEL Update

2017-05-10 Thread Richard Shaw 
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Bob Katz  wrote:

> Thanks, Richard and list!
>
> Does the EPEL and COPR installer for backuppc recognize that backuppc has
> already been installed and overwrite it? I don't mind overwriting. I just
> want to know if the installer covers existing installs. I've already
> installed the modified rsync, all the Perl dependencies, etc. I've run the
> Perl install script as well, following along with
>

Yes, it will work like any other upgrade / package update, it's not a
parallel installable package.


> http://sgowtham.com/journal/backuppc-on-red-hat-enterprise-linux/
>
> It seems most of the stuff is there, though I haven't launched the app
> yet. Maybe I'm just missing the inet.d script and who knows what else. But
> installing from a complete Fedora or Redhat repository instead would be
> much better of course. Should I wipe any stuff from my installation before
> venturing into a whole new install using EPEL and COPR approach?
>

Yes, probably best to wipe anything you've done manually. The readme in the
package has basic instructions on what you'll need to do after package
install.

I'm not sure if you mentioned what version you are running but the package
should install a SysV init script on EL 6 and the Systemd service file on
EL 7.

Thanks,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Need script linux-backuppc

2017-05-10 Thread Richard Shaw 
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Bob Katz  wrote:

> Dear Richard.
> On 5/9/17 9:37 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Bob Katz  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys.
>>
>> I've got too much time invested in Redhat to try Debian ;-(
>>
> What version are you running? 5  / 6 / 7?
>
> Version of what? I've got Redhat based on Fedora 25 is the release number
> off the top of my head, and I can recheck. So I don't understand the
> numbers "5 / 6 / 7".
>

I assumed since you said Redhat that you were running RHEL / CentOS /
Scientific Linux. If you're running "25" Then that would be Fedora 25 not
Redhat, while they sponsor some stuff and provide infrastructure they are
not directly linked. Redhat as a desktop OS has been dead a long time.

You can use my COPR to "upgrade" to BackupPC 4.1.2 but there are some
manual actions that have to be completed afterwards which is why I chose
not to update anything older than Fedora 26 to v4.

Thanks,
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