[BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

I wanted to test the mail function with BackupPC as described on 
http://webserveraddress/backuppc/html/doc/BackupPC.html#step_8__checking_email_delivery,
 
but got the below error message. I installed BackupPC according to the 
CentOS-BackupPC wiki at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC.

Could anyone offer any insights on this? I though the backuppc-account was a 
nologin (or some such) account, thus a su isn't possible.

r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su backuppc
r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
/usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my userid is 0, instead of 150 
(backuppc)
Please su backuppc first
BackupPC::Lib-new failed
r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#

Thanks for any help or explanations.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Pascal Bourdais
Le Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:18:24 +0100,
Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se a écrit :

Hi,

 
 I wanted to test the mail function with BackupPC as described on 
 http://webserveraddress/backuppc/html/doc/BackupPC.html#step_8__checking_email_delivery,
  
 but got the below error message. I installed BackupPC according to the 
 CentOS-BackupPC wiki at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC.
 
 Could anyone offer any insights on this? I though the backuppc-account was a 
 nologin (or some such) account, thus a su isn't possible.
 
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su backuppc

su - backuppc

 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my userid is 0, instead of 150 
 (backuppc)
 Please su backuppc first
 BackupPC::Lib-new failed
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
 
 Thanks for any help or explanations.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 28 January 2010 10:18:24 Sorin Srbu wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I wanted to test the mail function with BackupPC as described on
 http://webserveraddress/backuppc/html/doc/BackupPC.html#step_8__checking_em
 ail_delivery, but got the below error message. I installed BackupPC
  according to the CentOS-BackupPC wiki at
  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC.
 
 Could anyone offer any insights on this? I though the backuppc-account was
  a nologin (or some such) account, thus a su isn't possible.
 
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su backuppc

Try su - backuppc

to get backuppc's environment.

Tony
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
  sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my
  userid is 0, instead of 150 (backuppc)
 Please su backuppc first
 BackupPC::Lib-new failed
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
 
 Thanks for any help or explanations.
 

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 28 January 2010 11:20:05 Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Pascal Bourdais [mailto:pbourd...@infagri.fr]
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
 
 su - backuppc
 
 Already tried that, same thing happens:
 
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su - backuppc
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u

You're still root!!

  sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my
  userid is 0, instead of 150 (backuppc)
^^

definately still root

 Please su backuppc first
 BackupPC::Lib-new failed
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
 

On my machine

[r...@shannon ~]# 
[r...@shannon ~]# su - backuppc
[backu...@shannon ~]$ 

see changed user to backuppc

[backu...@shannon ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u 
moll...@mail.x.y.z
Sending test email using /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f backuppc

[backu...@shannon ~]$ grep root /etc/passwd
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash

[backu...@shannon ~]$ grep backuppc /etc/passwd
backuppc:x:490:490: BackupPC User :/home/backuppc:/bin/bash

I suspect your backuppc user is not set up correctly. In my case it's got a 
uid of 490 and is a login account

Tony







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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:20 PM
To: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support'
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

-Original Message-
From: Pascal Bourdais [mailto:pbourd...@infagri.fr]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

su - backuppc

Already tried that, same thing happens:

r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su - backuppc
r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
/usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my userid is 0, instead of 150
(backuppc)
Please su backuppc first
BackupPC::Lib-new failed
r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#


Did some thinking and got it working, sort of...

r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su -s /bin/bash - backuppc
backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ whoami
backuppc
backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u 
sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
Sending test email using /bin/mail -t -f sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
/bin/mail: invalid option -- t
Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ...
[-- sendmail-options ...]
   mail [-iInNv] -f [name]
   mail [-iInNv] [-u user]
backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$

Now what? I don't see any t mentioned in man mail... Or am I getting 
slightly blind here? 8-S

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: Tony Molloy [mailto:tony.mol...@ul.ie]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:56 PM
To: sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se; General list for user discussion, questions and
support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

On Thursday 28 January 2010 11:20:05 Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Pascal Bourdais [mailto:pbourd...@infagri.fr]
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
 
 su - backuppc

 Already tried that, same thing happens:

 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su - backuppc
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u

You're still root!!

  sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my
  userid is 0, instead of 150 (backuppc)
^^

definately still root

 Please su backuppc first
 BackupPC::Lib-new failed
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#


On my machine

[r...@shannon ~]#
[r...@shannon ~]# su - backuppc
[backu...@shannon ~]$

see changed user to backuppc

[backu...@shannon ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
moll...@mail.x.y.z
Sending test email using /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f backuppc

[backu...@shannon ~]$ grep root /etc/passwd
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash

[backu...@shannon ~]$ grep backuppc /etc/passwd
backuppc:x:490:490: BackupPC User :/home/backuppc:/bin/bash

I suspect your backuppc user is not set up correctly. In my case it's got a
uid of 490 and is a login account

The BackupPC installer sets the backuppc account up with nologin (no GUI 
login). In /etc/passwd the shell is /bin/false, so no GUI login allowed, but 
it should allow one to su in as backuppc. I solved that by adding the -s 
/bin/bash, as per the previous post. Now I can su properly to backuppc.

The problem *now* is that /bin/mail doesn't understand the -t switch. As I 
mentioned, I can't find anything about this t parameter in man mail, but in 
the /usr/bin/BackupPC_SendEmail script  the t parameter is mentioned as 
something that  -t  display the emails that would be sent, without sending 
them.

To me this is rather cryptic, and I don't quite understand the why's, what's 
and where's of this alluring -t and how I fix this.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Pascal Bourdais
Le Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:37:27 +0100,
Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se a écrit :

 -Original Message-
 From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:20 PM
 To: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support'
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pascal Bourdais [mailto:pbourd...@infagri.fr]
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
 
 su - backuppc
 
 Already tried that, same thing happens:
 
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su - backuppc
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my userid is 0, instead of 150
 (backuppc)
 Please su backuppc first
 BackupPC::Lib-new failed
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
 
 
 Did some thinking and got it working, sort of...
 
 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su -s /bin/bash - backuppc
 backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ whoami
 backuppc
 backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u 
 sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 Sending test email using /bin/mail -t -f sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se

You have to use sendmail, and not mail. In my config : 
$Conf{SendmailPath} = '/usr/sbin/sendmail'

And sendmail :
/usr/sbin/sendmail - /usr/local/exim/bin/exim

 /bin/mail: invalid option -- t
 Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ...
 [-- sendmail-options ...]
mail [-iInNv] -f [name]
mail [-iInNv] [-u user]
 backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$
 
 Now what? I don't see any t mentioned in man mail... Or am I getting 
 slightly blind here? 8-S
 


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 28 January 2010 13:16:41 Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Molloy [mailto:tony.mol...@ul.ie]
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:56 PM
 To: sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se; General list for user discussion, questions
  and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
 
 On Thursday 28 January 2010 11:20:05 Sorin Srbu wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Pascal Bourdais [mailto:pbourd...@infagri.fr]
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
  To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
  
  su - backuppc
 
  Already tried that, same thing happens:
 
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su - backuppc
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
 
 You're still root!!
 
   sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my
   userid is 0, instead of 150 (backuppc)
 
 ^^
 
 definately still root
 
  Please su backuppc first
  BackupPC::Lib-new failed
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
 
 On my machine
 
 [r...@shannon ~]#
 [r...@shannon ~]# su - backuppc
 [backu...@shannon ~]$
 
 see changed user to backuppc
 
 [backu...@shannon ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
 moll...@mail.x.y.z
 Sending test email using /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f backuppc
 
 [backu...@shannon ~]$ grep root /etc/passwd
 root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
 
 [backu...@shannon ~]$ grep backuppc /etc/passwd
 backuppc:x:490:490: BackupPC User :/home/backuppc:/bin/bash
 
 I suspect your backuppc user is not set up correctly. In my case it's got
  a uid of 490 and is a login account
 
 The BackupPC installer sets the backuppc account up with nologin (no GUI
 login). In /etc/passwd the shell is /bin/false, so no GUI login allowed,
  but it should allow one to su in as backuppc. I solved that by adding the
  -s /bin/bash, as per the previous post. Now I can su properly to
  backuppc.
 
 The problem *now* is that /bin/mail doesn't understand the -t switch. As
  I mentioned, I can't find anything about this t parameter in man mail, but
  in the /usr/bin/BackupPC_SendEmail script  the t parameter is mentioned as
  something that  -t  display the emails that would be sent, without
  sending them.
 
 To me this is rather cryptic, and I don't quite understand the why's,
  what's and where's of this alluring -t and how I fix this.
 
 Grateful for any help! Thanks.
 

Ok I run backuppc on CentOS and man mail says

   ~tname ...
 Add the given names to the direct recipient list.


So I'd just remove the -t and see what happens.

Hope this helps,

Tony



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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 28 January 2010 13:31:28 Pascal Bourdais wrote:
 Le Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:37:27 +0100,
 
 Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se a écrit :
  -Original Message-
  From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:20 PM
  To: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support'
  Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Pascal Bourdais [mailto:pbourd...@infagri.fr]
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:04 PM
  To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC
  
  su - backuppc
  
  Already tried that, same thing happens:
  
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su - backuppc
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
   sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail: Wrong user: my
   userid is 0, instead of 150 (backuppc)
  Please su backuppc first
  BackupPC::Lib-new failed
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
 
  Did some thinking and got it working, sort of...
 
  r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su -s /bin/bash - backuppc
  backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ whoami
  backuppc
  backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
  sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
  Sending test email using /bin/mail -t -f sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 
 You have to use sendmail, and not mail. In my config :
 $Conf{SendmailPath} = '/usr/sbin/sendmail'
 
 And sendmail :
 /usr/sbin/sendmail - /usr/local/exim/bin/exim
 

In my config file it's also sendmail. I wonder what distro the OP uses

Tony


  /bin/mail: invalid option -- t
  Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ...
  [-- sendmail-options ...]
 mail [-iInNv] -f [name]
 mail [-iInNv] [-u user]
  backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$
 
  Now what? I don't see any t mentioned in man mail... Or am I getting
  slightly blind here? 8-S
 

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:10 PM
To: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support'
Subject: RE: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

Did you perhaps set SendmailPath to mail instead of /usr/sbin/sendmail?
-t
is a
flag to sendmail that says the To:/From: headers are already in the input.

I didn't change those paths, it's a plain vanilla install really. With that
said, /usr/bin/mail is the preset value.

Ok, I'll try sendmail instead then. Thanks!

@Tony Molloy:
I run BackupPC on CentOS 5.4 and used the howto available at
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC for setting this up. No mention of
sendmail in that howto.


Changed the path and now I don't get any error message any longer. Can't
tell for sure if works or not though. Am I supposed to get the testmail in
the inbox for the mail address listed below?

r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su -s /bin/bash - backuppc
backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ whoami
backuppc
backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
Sending test email using /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$

This is getting tedious. I hope you guys don't mind my ranting back and
forth... 8-}

Thanks all for now, I'm pretty sure I'll be back soon again with something
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:18 PM
To: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support'
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

Did you perhaps set SendmailPath to mail instead of /usr/sbin/sendmail?
-t is a flag to sendmail that says the To:/From: headers are already in
the input.

I didn't change those paths, it's a plain vanilla install really. With
that
said, /usr/bin/mail is the preset value.

Ok, I'll try sendmail instead then. Thanks!

@Tony Molloy:
I run BackupPC on CentOS 5.4 and used the howto available at
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC for setting this up. No mention of
sendmail in that howto.


Changed the path and now I don't get any error message any longer. Can't
tell for sure if works or not though. Am I supposed to get the testmail in
the inbox for the mail address listed below?


Right now I feel rather like a dunce. I didn't configure sendmail... The
below link helped though. Once I setup the smtp address, the test mail
dropped in.

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-configure-sendmail-as-outbound-submission
-mta/

To my defense I must say, I've never dealt with sendmail before... This is a
first. 8-}

Anyway, seems like all (most visible things anyway) are in working order
now.

Thanks all for your help and suggestions, you've been stellar so far!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 9:17 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

 Did you perhaps set SendmailPath to mail instead of /usr/sbin/sendmail?
 -t
 is a
 flag to sendmail that says the To:/From: headers are already in the input.

 I didn't change those paths, it's a plain vanilla install really. With that
 said, /usr/bin/mail is the preset value.

I'd report that as a bug to the packager.

 Ok, I'll try sendmail instead then. Thanks!

 @Tony Molloy:
 I run BackupPC on CentOS 5.4 and used the howto available at
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC for setting this up. No mention of
 sendmail in that howto.


 Changed the path and now I don't get any error message any longer. Can't
 tell for sure if works or not though. Am I supposed to get the testmail in
 the inbox for the mail address listed below?

 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su -s /bin/bash - backuppc
 backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ whoami
 backuppc
 backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$ /usr/bin/BackupPC_sendEmail -u
 sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 Sending test email using /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 backu...@mach012 ~/ [0]$

 This is getting tedious. I hope you guys don't mind my ranting back and
 forth... 8-}

 Thanks all for now, I'm pretty sure I'll be back soon again with something
 else I need help with.

Sendmail should work for _sending_ mail (but not receiving remotely) out 
of the box on a Centos install if your DNS works and you have direct 
outbound access.  If you have to relay through another host to get out, 
set SMART_HOST in sendmail.mc and restart sendmail.  If you have to 
deliver local mail to another server, set MAIL_HUB in sendmail.mc.  If 
you don't have a DNS-resolvable hostname, you will have to also set 
MASQUERADE_AS in sendmail.mc to get most other machines to accept the 
mail.  You can look at /var/log/maillog to see where things are going.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Testing the mail function from BackupPC

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 5:01 AM, Tony Molloy wrote:

 I wanted to test the mail function with BackupPC as described on
 http://webserveraddress/backuppc/html/doc/BackupPC.html#step_8__checking_em
 ail_delivery, but got the below error message. I installed BackupPC
   according to the CentOS-BackupPC wiki at
   http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC.

 Could anyone offer any insights on this? I though the backuppc-account was
   a nologin (or some such) account, thus a su isn't possible.

 r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# su backuppc

 Try su - backuppc

 to get backuppc's environment.

The problem here is that the backuppc user added by the rpm package 
doesn't have a shell in the /etc/passwd file (which you need for this 
sort of testing and testing the ssh keys).  Either fix this and be done 
with it or use 'su -s /bin/bash backuppc' every time.

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