Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync vs rsyncd speed for huge number of small files

2020-04-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:15 AM ED Fochler 
wrote:

> I would expect no difference for small file performance between rsync and
> ssh-rsync.  The ssh overhead on a modern system limits data rate to
> something like 75MB/s, nearly saturating a gigabit link.  It seems you have
> basic filesystem performance issues.  More RAM, larger caches, SSD?
> investigate with iostat on client or server?


If the host has a CPU bottleneck an easy solution (for the OP's indication
it was a private network) would be to change the cipher ssh uses to
something less intensive.

Add "-c blowfish" to the ssh options, just keep in mind the host system
will have to allow that (weak) cipher...

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync vs rsyncd speed for huge number of small files

2020-04-21 Thread R.C.

Il 21/04/2020 17:48, ED Fochler ha scritto:

I would expect no difference for small file performance between rsync and 
ssh-rsync.  The ssh overhead on a modern system limits data rate to something 
like 75MB/s, nearly saturating a gigabit link.  It seems you have basic 
filesystem performance issues.  More RAM, larger caches, SSD?  investigate with 
iostat on client or server?



I don't have speed issues on this filesystem during normal use; 
althought I have not made a specific benchmarking session.
Anyhow, it is true that XFS is not the best option for many small files. 
I'm planning to move to EXT4 in the near future.


Thank you

Raf




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Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync vs rsyncd speed for huge number of small files

2020-04-21 Thread R.C.

Il 21/04/2020 18:05, Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users ha scritto:
What version of BackupPC are you running?  4.x will likely be a good 
deal faster than 3.x for both rsync+ssh and rsyncd.




I have 3.2.1 backing up this imap folder.

I'm evaluating whether to upgrade to V4 but I am mirroring some 
pc/ folders on a another idle backuppc installation and this is 
not feasible with V4 at this moment.


Thank you

Raf


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Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync vs rsyncd speed for huge number of small files

2020-04-21 Thread ED Fochler
I would expect no difference for small file performance between rsync and 
ssh-rsync.  The ssh overhead on a modern system limits data rate to something 
like 75MB/s, nearly saturating a gigabit link.  It seems you have basic 
filesystem performance issues.  More RAM, larger caches, SSD?  investigate with 
iostat on client or server?

ED.


> On 2020, Apr 21, at 4:31 AM, R.C.  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> What is the expected difference in performance between rsync+shh and rsyncd?
> I would use it over a private LAN, so no concerns about security.
> Currently rsync+ssh is way too slow for a huge number of very small files 
> (about 700K email files in an imap server tree), even without --checksum.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Raf
> 
> 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync vs rsyncd speed for huge number of small files

2020-04-21 Thread Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users
What version of BackupPC are you running?  4.x will likely be a good deal
faster than 3.x for both rsync+ssh and rsyncd.

The penalty of rsync+ssh vs rsyncd is likely modest, although it depends on
how much data is changing between backups.

Craig

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:33 AM R.C.  wrote:

> Hi
>
> What is the expected difference in performance between rsync+shh and
> rsyncd?
> I would use it over a private LAN, so no concerns about security.
> Currently rsync+ssh is way too slow for a huge number of very small
> files (about 700K email files in an imap server tree), even without
> --checksum.
>
> Thank you
>
> Raf
>
>
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[BackupPC-users] rsync vs rsyncd speed for huge number of small files

2020-04-21 Thread R.C.

Hi

What is the expected difference in performance between rsync+shh and rsyncd?
I would use it over a private LAN, so no concerns about security.
Currently rsync+ssh is way too slow for a huge number of very small 
files (about 700K email files in an imap server tree), even without 
--checksum.


Thank you

Raf


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