Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-07 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, I'm following your discussion for a while now... On 2/7/2007 3:54 AM, Don MacArthur wrote: I think some of the code contains what might be a good solution. What you want seems to be he ability to copy volumes,possibly to another SD, and keep complete catalog information about both

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-07 Thread Don MacArthur
Thanks Arno, you always seem to have very helpful insights. These features would definitely represent a step up in complexity, and functionality. Honestly, I'd love the restore-from-one-of-several-copies feature even if I had to choose which volume to use for the restore from a list of

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-07 Thread Michael Nelson
On Wed, February 7, 2007 7:51 am, Don MacArthur wrote: Thanks Arno, you always seem to have very helpful insights. I agree. Arno is knowledgeable, helpful, and seemingly always in good cheer. Bravo, Arno! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-06 Thread Dwight Tovey
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 16:27 -0800, Tauren Mills wrote: True. I guess I was meaning that Bacula would be natively aware of both copies and be able to restore from either one. Since my disk backups are on a different disk than the mysql database is, this might happen if my backup disk

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-06 Thread Ryan Novosielski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tauren Mills wrote: I agree. It would be nice if there was a 'clone volume' command that would create a copy of the tape (or backup file) and create new records for the associated catalog data with pointers to the second volume. I used to work

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-06 Thread Don MacArthur
I was one of the more recent posters on this topic. The tools I have used in the past used whichever volume was loaded as long as it was one of the ones it asked for. So, if the original backup was on volume123, and copied to volume456, a list of *all* the volumes that contain the version of

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-06 Thread Tauren Mills
This sounds like a reasonable approach. If I request to restore a particular object and the exact object version exists on multiple volumes, it really doesn't matter which volume it is restored from. As long as that object gets restored, I will be happy. Of course, it could make my life easier

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-06 Thread Don MacArthur
I think some of the code contains what might be a good solution. Right now, when a scheduled backup issues a mount request for a tape, it doesn't matter what tape I load as long as it meets the requirements to be used. If it asks me for volume123 from pool xyz, and I load volume456 from pool

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-05 Thread Martin Simmons
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:01:00 -0800, Tauren Mills said: I'm not having file size issues of 17GB on disk. I'm talking about the data written to tape is about 17GB or 18GB. It seems like the tape drive isn't compressing the data. But if it isn't, why would it not get closer to 20GB? Or is

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-05 Thread Dwight Tovey
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 15:31 -0800, Tauren Mills wrote: Even though option #3 has some drawbacks, the likelihood of those drawbacks happening are slim, especially if I mirror my big backup drive. I'm leaning toward it at the moment unless someone can suggest a way to make a COPY of a volume

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-05 Thread Tauren Mills
Dwight, Thanks for the thoughts, very helpful! Even though option #3 has some drawbacks, the likelihood of those drawbacks happening are slim, especially if I mirror my big backup drive. I'm leaning toward it at the moment unless someone can suggest a way to make a COPY of a volume from

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-05 Thread Dwight Tovey
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 13:44 -0800, Tauren Mills wrote: Would you use bcopy separate from bacula, creating your own scripts that run off a cron job? Or would you somehow integrate using bcopy into a bacula job using custom bacula scripts? I plan on creating my own scripts, but called as

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-05 Thread Tauren Mills
Dwight, Would you use bcopy separate from bacula, creating your own scripts that run off a cron job? Or would you somehow integrate using bcopy into a bacula job using custom bacula scripts? I plan on creating my own scripts, but called as part of the Catalog backup job. It will

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-04 Thread Tauren Mills
After much thought, I think the best solution for my needs is to have all full and incremental backups saved to disk volumes my large drive for fast backups and convenient restores. In addition, I would like a weekly full backups of all systems stored on tape so that it can be taken offsite.

[Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-03 Thread Tauren Mills
Hello, I've been using bacula for a couple years, backing up several servers to an HP DAT40x6 autochanger. It has worked great! However, I had a failure on my backup server and I've now rebuilt it, installing recent bacula versions, and an additional large hard drive. So I now have a 500GB

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-03 Thread Stephen Carr
Tauren I have a somewhat similar situation but have XP clients on workstations and laptops to backup as well as some Linux servers. The tape unit is a HP Dat 72x6. I am trying to get Migration to work - nearly there. See below for other comments. Stephen Carr Tauren Mills wrote: Hello,

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-03 Thread Tauren Mills
Stephen, Thanks for the fast feedback! See below... I have a somewhat similar situation but have XP clients on workstations and laptops to backup as well as some Linux servers. The tape unit is a HP Dat 72x6. I am trying to get Migration to work - nearly there. Haven't looked into

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-03 Thread Stephen Carr
Tauren More below Stephen Tauren Mills wrote: Stephen, Thanks for the fast feedback! See below... I have a somewhat similar situation but have XP clients on workstations and laptops to backup as well as some Linux servers. The tape unit is a HP Dat 72x6. I am trying to get Migration

Re: [Bacula-users] Advice for disk and tape backup plan

2007-02-03 Thread Tauren Mills
Stephen, Thanks again for the details about your backup plan. Yes the data is moved from disc to tape and I agree it would be nice to access the data off disc instead of tape. The Volume on disc still exists but will be recycled when needed. My test restore came off the tape. If you run a