Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-26 Thread Bob Hetzel
>> > >> > What is the best strategy and storage media for long-term backups, say >> > to 10 or 20 years (if any)? I ask because I do have an old DLT tape >> > drive and some tapes, unusable, because its SCSI controller is no longer >> > among us. It is not 10 years old and is already a problem. >

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread John Drescher
> Thinking in long term, i belive that the future is the cloud. Pay for 'hire' > space and let the others take care of migrating data to new technologies > when they will be available > I guess a lot of people will choose this option. Probably same ones who pay $50K for a 10TB server and think they

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread David Ballester
> > What is the best strategy and storage media for long-term backups, say > to 10 or 20 years (if any)? I ask because I do have an old DLT tape > drive and some tapes, unusable, because its SCSI controller is no longer > among us. It is not 10 years old and is already a problem. > > -- > Marcio Me

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
John Drescher wrote: >> What is the best strategy and storage media for long-term backups, say >> to 10 or 20 years (if any)? I ask because I do have an old DLT tape >> drive and some tapes, unusable, because its SCSI controller is no longer >> among us. It is not 10 years old and is already a pr

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread John Drescher
Since we are on this topic. Never use flash / SSD for this. Current generation SSD drives have less than 2 years data retention when powered off. This is only getting worse as the manufacturers are shrinking the process nodes. John -

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread John Drescher
> Wouldn't DVD be a pretty good solution for this? Perhaps they won't be > around in 10 years, but I'd count that you could find a working reader. > At that point you could read the data off and write it to whatever the > latest, most long-term media happens to be. > > Certainly better than hard dr

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread Scott Courtney
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 15:09 -0500, Marcio Vogel Merlone dos Santos wrote: > What is the best strategy and storage media for long-term backups, > say > to 10 or 20 years (if any)? I ask because I do have an old DLT tape > drive and some tapes, unusable, because its SCSI controller is no > longer

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread Dave Robison
Wouldn't DVD be a pretty good solution for this? Perhaps they won't be around in 10 years, but I'd count that you could find a working reader. At that point you could read the data off and write it to whatever the latest, most long-term media happens to be. Certainly better than hard drives as

Re: [Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread John Drescher
> What is the best strategy and storage media for long-term backups, say > to 10 or 20 years (if any)? I ask because I do have an old DLT tape > drive and some tapes, unusable, because its SCSI controller is no longer > among us. It is not 10 years old and is already a problem. > In bacula provided

[Bacula-users] Long-term backups - was: Hard disk as backup media

2010-03-24 Thread Marcio Vogel Merlone dos Santos
On 24-03-2010 15:33, Scott Courtney wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 13:14 -0500, Josh Fisher wrote: > >>> Agreed. I would not expect a drive to be readable if you sit it on a >>> shelf for 10 years. It probably would not spin up unless you kept it >>> in a humidity protected environment. >>>