Re: [Bacula-users] Understanding purge

2010-11-23 Thread Dermot Beirne
On 22 November 2010 18:55, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:02, Dermot Beirne dermot.bei...@dpd.ie wrote:

 That particular feature would be good news for me at least!
 I definitely would really like to see the ability to automatically
 purge volumes also, and leave it to the user to decide if they want to
 preserve the data as long as possible.
 The patch you posted a link to is for version 3.0.1
 Do you know if it would still apply to 5.0.3?

 If you can point me to a description of how to apply patches to bacula
 also, that would be helpful.  I haven't used patches before.

 Do you normally use the binary distributions (rpms etc) or compile bacula
 from source?

 -Blake


I've compiled from source up to now.

Dermot

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Re: [Bacula-users] Incremental Backup / Moved File doesn't get stored in the backup

2010-11-23 Thread Martin Simmons
 On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:15:17 +0100, martinezino  said:
 
 Dear List,
 
 i started using bacula a couple of weeks ago and i am very satisfied.
 
 Today i noticed on doing an incremental backup that a file that was  
 moved
 from one directory to another doesn't get stored in the backup?
 
 After doing a touch on the file - it got saved into the backup  
 (incremental).
 
 For my sense of a backup this should be done without touching the  
 file, because
 the director content changed ...
 
 Do i miss here something?
 
 Thanks
 
 PM
 
 PS: bacula-fd on osx/hfs, atime is enabled

That is because hfs doesn't change the ctime when you move a file, so bacula
ignores the file.  You could try using accurate mode, which should fix this.

http://www.bacula.org/5.0.x-manuals/en/main/main/New_Features_in_3_0_0.html#SECTION0081

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[Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Hi!

I have set up bacula with automatic labelling of volumes:

In bacula-dir.conf:
Storage {
  Name = File
  Address = bacula
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = 
  Device = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
}

Pool {
  Name = File
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  recycle Volumes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 10 days
  Maximum Volume Bytes = 4G
  Maximum Volume Jobs = 1
  Maximum Volumes = 100
  LabelFormat = T${JobName}
}

In bacula-sd.conf:
Device {
  Name = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
  Archive Device = /srv/bacula
  LabelMedia = yes;
  Random Access = Yes;
  AutomaticMount = yes;
  RemovableMedia = no;
  AlwaysOpen = no;
}

Automatic creation of volumes then labelling them fails. Bacula
hangs waiting for operator intervention --- this is not what I
expected it to do. I'd like to have:

- Start a job,
- look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it
- push it into the pool, mount it.
- backup the jobs data.
- after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround
- delete it when retention time has come and there is
  not enough space for a new volume.

After reading the fine manual , goggling around, not finding
anything helpful: does anyone have a setup doing what I expect mine
to do, running and is willing to share?

I'd appreciate any help!

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread Blake Dunlap
Bacula does not act like you wish, you could script parts of this to
accomplish what you want, but you cannot do it natively.

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:53, Thomas Schweikle t...@vr-web.de wrote:

 Hi!

 I have set up bacula with automatic labelling of volumes:

 In bacula-dir.conf:
 Storage {
  Name = File
  Address = bacula
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = 
  Device = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
 }

 Pool {
  Name = File
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  recycle Volumes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 10 days
  Maximum Volume Bytes = 4G
  Maximum Volume Jobs = 1
  Maximum Volumes = 100
  LabelFormat = T${JobName}
 }

 In bacula-sd.conf:
 Device {
  Name = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
  Archive Device = /srv/bacula
  LabelMedia = yes;
  Random Access = Yes;
  AutomaticMount = yes;
  RemovableMedia = no;
  AlwaysOpen = no;
 }

 Automatic creation of volumes then labelling them fails. Bacula
 hangs waiting for operator intervention --- this is not what I
 expected it to do. I'd like to have:

 - Start a job,
 - look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it
 - push it into the pool, mount it.
 - backup the jobs data.
 - after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround
 - delete it when retention time has come and there is
  not enough space for a new volume.

 After reading the fine manual , goggling around, not finding
 anything helpful: does anyone have a setup doing what I expect mine
 to do, running and is willing to share?

 I'd appreciate any help!

 --
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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Am 23.11.2010 20:55, schrieb Blake Dunlap:
 Bacula does not act like you wish, you could script parts of this to
 accomplish what you want, but you cannot do it natively.

Which parts does bacula do, which does it not?

 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:53, Thomas Schweikle t...@vr-web.de
 [...]
 
 Automatic creation of volumes then labelling them fails. Bacula
 hangs waiting for operator intervention --- this is not what I
 expected it to do. I'd like to have:
 
 - Start a job,
 - look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it
 - push it into the pool, mount it.
 - backup the jobs data.
 - after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround
 - delete it when retention time has come and there is
  not enough space for a new volume.
 
 After reading the fine manual , goggling around, not finding
 anything helpful: does anyone have a setup doing what I expect mine
 to do, running and is willing to share?
 
 I'd appreciate any help!

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread John Drescher
 Which parts does bacula do, which does it not?

     - Start a job,
     - look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it

It looks here for an appendable volume. Although if all of your
volumes are use volume once /max jobs =1 it will only find empty ones.

     - push it into the pool, mount it.

You probably already want the volume in the correct pool. There is a
scratch pool that can pull new volumes out of into your pool but I am
not sure that will help or do what you want.

     - backup the jobs data.

usually no problem if the last step succeed.

     - after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround

this is the default operation/

     - delete it when retention time has come and there is
      not enough space for a new volume.

Bacula does not delete volumes when the retention period expires or it
runs out of space. It will purge volumes when there are no available
volumes in the pool and one is needed at the moment for a job. If you
want different functionality than the default you will have to script
this.


     After reading the fine manual , goggling around, not finding
     anything helpful: does anyone have a setup doing what I expect mine
     to do, running and is willing to share?

     I'd appreciate any help!

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Am 23.11.2010 21:50, schrieb John Drescher:
 Which parts does bacula do, which does it not?

 - Start a job,
 - look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it
 
 It looks here for an appendable volume. Although if all of your
 volumes are use volume once /max jobs =1 it will only find empty ones.

Does this mean bacula does not automatically create volumes as
needed if storage is File? Would be a nice feature. Else: is there
a way to mass create volumes? I've calculated about 70 volumes per
host I've to backup ...

 - push it into the pool, mount it.
 
 You probably already want the volume in the correct pool. There is a
 scratch pool that can pull new volumes out of into your pool but I am
 not sure that will help or do what you want.

This would be enough --- if volumes recycled are relabelled. If they
keep there label I'd have to look for a way remove labels from
volumes not used any more.

 - backup the jobs data.
 
 usually no problem if the last step succeed.
 
 - after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround
 
 this is the default operation/

:-)

 - delete it when retention time has come and there is
  not enough space for a new volume.
 
 Bacula does not delete volumes when the retention period expires or it
 runs out of space. It will purge volumes when there are no available
 volumes in the pool and one is needed at the moment for a job. If you
 want different functionality than the default you will have to script
 this.

I'd do it. But at first bacula would have to run and use volumes as
necessary. Most of the time bacula shall run without any
intervention by anyone!

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread Paulo Martinez
Am 23.11.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
 Hi!

 I have set up bacula with automatic labelling of volumes:

 In bacula-dir.conf:
 Storage {
  Name = File
  Address = bacula
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = 
  Device = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
 }

 Pool {
  Name = File
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  recycle Volumes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 10 days
  Maximum Volume Bytes = 4G
  Maximum Volume Jobs = 1
  Maximum Volumes = 100
  LabelFormat = T${JobName}
 }

 In bacula-sd.conf:
 Device {
  Name = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
  Archive Device = /srv/bacula
  LabelMedia = yes;
  Random Access = Yes;
  AutomaticMount = yes;
  RemovableMedia = no;
  AlwaysOpen = no;
 }

 Automatic creation of volumes then labelling them fails. Bacula
 hangs waiting for operator intervention --- this is not what I
 expected it to do. I'd like to have:

 - Start a job,
 - look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it
 - push it into the pool, mount it.
 - backup the jobs data.
 - after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround
 - delete it when retention time has come and there is
  not enough space for a new volume.

 After reading the fine manual , goggling around, not finding
 anything helpful: does anyone have a setup doing what I expect mine
 to do, running and is willing to share?

 I'd appreciate any help!


Hi Thomas, i have the same configuration and it is doing the automatic  
labeling (Media Type = File).

What about this recycle Volumes-line in your Pool definition ?

PM






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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread Blake Dunlap
recycled volumes are not relabeled, only when they are created are they
labeled AFAIK

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:17, Paulo Martinez martinez...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Am 23.11.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
  Hi!
 
  I have set up bacula with automatic labelling of volumes:
 
  In bacula-dir.conf:
  Storage {
   Name = File
   Address = bacula
   SDPort = 9103
   Password = 
   Device = FileStorage
   Media Type = File
  }
 
  Pool {
   Name = File
   Pool Type = Backup
   Recycle = yes
   recycle Volumes
   AutoPrune = yes
   Volume Retention = 10 days
   Maximum Volume Bytes = 4G
   Maximum Volume Jobs = 1
   Maximum Volumes = 100
   LabelFormat = T${JobName}
  }
 
  In bacula-sd.conf:
  Device {
   Name = FileStorage
   Media Type = File
   Archive Device = /srv/bacula
   LabelMedia = yes;
   Random Access = Yes;
   AutomaticMount = yes;
   RemovableMedia = no;
   AlwaysOpen = no;
  }
 
  Automatic creation of volumes then labelling them fails. Bacula
  hangs waiting for operator intervention --- this is not what I
  expected it to do. I'd like to have:
 
  - Start a job,
  - look for an empty volume, if none there, create one, than label it
  - push it into the pool, mount it.
  - backup the jobs data.
  - after finishing keep the volume with this one job arround
  - delete it when retention time has come and there is
   not enough space for a new volume.
 
  After reading the fine manual , goggling around, not finding
  anything helpful: does anyone have a setup doing what I expect mine
  to do, running and is willing to share?
 
  I'd appreciate any help!


 Hi Thomas, i have the same configuration and it is doing the automatic
 labeling (Media Type = File).

 What about this recycle Volumes-line in your Pool definition ?

 PM







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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and automatic labelling of volumes

2010-11-23 Thread John Drescher
 recycled volumes are not relabeled, only when they are created are they
 labeled AFAIK

That is correct. If you want to change the name. Its probably better
to delete and create a new volume.

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[Bacula-users] Unable to restore using different storage device.

2010-11-23 Thread brodie
Hello,

I am having issues trying to restore to a different client and storage
device then originally did the backup job.

In our setup we have 1 director, 2 clients and 2 storage devices.

I can restore fine if I run the restore job using the same storage
device that backed it up, the problem I'm having is when I take the
tape to our other site using the other storage device.

Essentially this is the procedure I am following
- Run restore job.
- Specify job to restore
- Mark files to restore
- Choose my restore job profile
- Change the client to the client I want to restore to
- Change the storage device to the device I want to restore to
- Run

It then starts the job but the job waits with the message job... is
waiting on max Storage jobs.  Just to be clear this is the only job
that is running.

After having tried this same procedure over and over I finally noticed
that the restore job writes a bootstrap record. This bootstrap record
is written before the part where I can change the client and storage
device. This results in the bootstrap file containing the incorrect
storage device, even though I am modifying the job parameters and
specifying a different one. Is this a bug or am I not understanding
the use of the bootstrap file? How can it be written before the user
is allowed to modify the backup job parameters?

I have tried manually editing the file to reflect the storage device I
want to use, as well as deleting the file completely and seeing if it
notices. Either method result in the same ... is waiting on max
Storage jobs

Any tips? Suggestions?

Thanks.

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