Re: [Bacula-users] Install Bacula-Community from repository?

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

HI

I suggest you try instructions in this document

https://www.bacula.lat/community/bacula-community-9-x-official-packages-installation-script/?lang=en

 has instruction for both debian and RHEL installations, some things 
must be changed according to the version/enviroment you install but it 
is to figure out.


Reagrds /Mehrdad

On 2024-05-03 08:57, James Israel via Bacula-users wrote:


Is it possible to install Bacula-Community from a repository?

I have a RHEL 9 server which came with Bacula Community 11.0.1, but I 
was having so much trouble getting it working, I decided to try to 
update it. Trying a yum upgrade didn’t work, so I (foolishly) 
uninstalled it, removing the repo, thinking it should be no problem to 
download v13 or v15 repo and install from that.


I’ve followed instructions from the 
https://www.bacula.org/whitepapers/CommunityInstallationGuide.pdf 
, 
however, it’s not working, I get:


Errors during downloading metadata for repository 'Bacula-Community':

Error: Failed to download metadata for repo 'Bacula-Community': Cannot 
download repomd.xml: Cannot download repodata/repomd.xml: All mirrors 
were tried


I’ve also tried installing manually by downloading and unpacking 
bacula-15.0.2.tar.gz, then using ./configure and make, etc, but that 
was a real nightmare, one problem after another to work out, and never 
could get it working.


Is there any way to get the repo for Bacula and install it like any 
other program with a good ol’ “yum install” command?


Thanks for any help.

  * James



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Re: [Bacula-users] VSS

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

Hi

Thanks for your reply

This makes sense, and is what i could make work, guess i could do a PS 
script to make a VSS snapshot of files i need, save it in file and have 
bacula backup that file instead of using bacula doing a VSS backup of iles
But question is, is it possiple to get bacula to backup the .vhd file as 
a separate file ?? Do u have an example conf file you can share or some 
documentation on the net??


Sincerely /Mehrdad

On 2024-04-24 11:15, Lionel PLASSE wrote:

For me vss make a snapshot of a volume, like in hyper-v virtual disk. This 
shnapshot vor windows is a virtual disk file like .vhd (or .vdi). So you can 
mount this volume file a work with files in the snapshot.

So with Bacula to use vss agent you have to make a vss backup with vss agent by 
windows and backup this vss snapshot file into Bacula to do what you want if a 
understand well.

bacula deals with the C VSS API, as you would in powershell, it does not 
directly save the VSS result but uses the API functions to read the snapshot 
and recover the files stopped at a given time.





De : Mehrdad Ravanbod 
Envoyé : mercredi 24 avril 2024 10:22
À : Radosław Korzeniewski 
Cc : bacula-users 
Objet : Re: [Bacula-users] VSS

Hi
You right in saying that bacula can use VSS to do backups in Windows systems, however It 
is my understanding that the VSS backup file is put into a "volume" file which 
makes it not accesible to VSS tools. In a windows system u can do straight VSS backup 
which can then be read by VSS tools and chcked/restored, however this not practical when 
there are many clients even with automation via powershell or other form of scripting. 
having a backup system to easily check the state of backups and keeping track of them is 
abetter solution, which is why i am considering bacula
As I said i am new to bacula, so it maybe that it is possible to do backups(VSS or 
otherwise) with bacula that does not use "Volume" files(I am backing up to 
disk, not a a tape drive)
So I guess this is what my questions is, is it possible to get Bacula to do backups with VSS(or 
even otherwise, simple file copying with or without compression/encryption) without using 
"Volume" files, i.e the backup files are saved as indiviual files and not all put 
together in a "volume" file. The volume files seem to be there more for a tape based 
system, the concept is not really neded if you are backing up to disk
Regards /Mehrdad
On 2024-04-24 09:23, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:
Hello,

śr., 24 kwi 2024 o 08:44 Mehrdad Ravanbod <mailto:mehrdad.ravan...@ampfield.se> 
napisał(a):
HI
Thanks for taking the time to answer, but that was actualy not the question
I am aware that VSS is for copying files that maybe in Use in windows env., As 
i said most of our backup is from machines which are windows, both server and 
client
My question is if it possible to get bacula to not put a VSS backup in a 
volume(which makes it impossible to restore if by VSS tools if something 
happens to the bacula server),
You do not need any vss tools to make VSS backup with Bacula. Bacula will 
handle all for you.
rather save it as it is, that is a sperate file, readable by teh VSS system
What does it mean "save it as it is" - I'm not familiar with VSS internal nor 
advanced usage.
What do you need to do?

Radek




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Re: [Bacula-users] VSS

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

Hi

You right in saying that bacula can use VSS to do backups in Windows 
systems, however It is my understanding that the VSS backup file is put 
into a "volume" file which makes it not accesible to VSS tools. In a 
windows system u can do straight VSS backup which can then be read by 
VSS tools and chcked/restored, however this not practical when there are 
many clients even with automation via powershell or other form of 
scripting. having a backup system to easily check the state of backups 
and keeping track of them is abetter solution, which is why i am 
considering bacula


As I said i am new to bacula, so it maybe that it is possible to do 
backups(VSS or otherwise) with bacula that does not use "Volume" files(I 
am backing up to disk, not a a tape drive)


So I guess this is what my questions is, is it possible to get Bacula to 
do backups with VSS(or even otherwise, simple file copying with or 
without compression/encryption) without using "Volume" files, i.e the 
backup files are saved as indiviual files and not all put together in a 
"volume" file. The volume files seem to be there more for a tape based 
system, the concept is not really neded if you are backing up to disk


Regards /Mehrdad

On 2024-04-24 09:23, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:

Hello,

śr., 24 kwi 2024 o 08:44 Mehrdad Ravanbod 
mailto:mehrdad.ravan...@ampfield.se>> 
napisał(a):


HI

Thanks for taking the time to answer, but that was actualy not the
question
I am aware that VSS is for copying files that maybe in Use in
windows env., As i said most of our backup is from machines which
are windows, both server and client

My question is if it possible to get bacula to not put a VSS
backup in a volume(which makes it impossible to restore if by VSS
tools if something happens to the bacula server),

You do not need any vss tools to make VSS backup with Bacula. Bacula 
will handle all for you.


rather save it as it is, that is a sperate file, readable by teh
VSS system

What does it mean "save it as it is" - I'm not familiar with VSS 
internal nor advanced usage.

What do you need to do?

Radek
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Re: [Bacula-users] VSS

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

HI

Thanks for taking the time to answer, but that was actualy not the question
I am aware that VSS is for copying files that maybe in Use in windows 
env., As i said most of our backup is from machines which are windows, 
both server and client


My question is if it possible to get bacula to not put a VSS backup in a 
volume(which makes it impossible to restore if by VSS tools if something 
happens to the bacula server), rather save it as it is, that is a 
sperate file, readable by teh VSS system


On 2024-04-24 03:29, Jose Alberto wrote:

Hi
https://www.bacula.org/5.1.x-manuals/es/main/main/Windows_Version_Bacula.html#SECTION00346 
<https://www.bacula.org/5.1.x-manuals/es/main/main/Windows_Version_Bacula.html#SECTION00346>


VSS is for copying hot files that are being used. That doesn't happen 
with Linux. With Windows yes.


I don't know if that's the question.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 5:45 AM Mehrdad Ravanbod 
mailto:mehrdad.ravan...@ampfield.se>> 
wrote:


Hi

I am new to bacula, trying to set up a test system for backup of a
mixed
linux and Windows env. (Mostly Windows, server and desktops)

I have gotten it to work more or less, a few issues to work out.
One is
bout VSS, which i assume most people use when doing backups from
windows

It seems that the VSS copies are saved inside Volumes, which makes
impossible to read them indiviualy if something happens to the bacula
server,  it is there a way to get these snapshots to be saved as
files(which could be read with the VSS tools? or not

If yes, how is it configured??

Sincerely /Mehrdad




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[Bacula-users] VSS

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

Hi

I am new to bacula, trying to set up a test system for backup of a mixed 
linux and Windows env. (Mostly Windows, server and desktops)


I have gotten it to work more or less, a few issues to work out. One is 
bout VSS, which i assume most people use when doing backups from windows


It seems that the VSS copies are saved inside Volumes, which makes 
impossible to read them indiviualy if something happens to the bacula 
server,  it is there a way to get these snapshots to be saved as 
files(which could be read with the VSS tools? or not


If yes, how is it configured??

Sincerely /Mehrdad




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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup from windows

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

d up, this will
make recovering from a volume much easier and faster. One
suggestion I have heard is that maybe you could configure a
run-after script to email the BSR file generated by a job to
yourself after the bsckup job runs.

I have discussed tape and file volumes. One exception to this
behavior of backing up files into volumes is if bacula is used to
back up to an S3 object storage target. In that case I am led to
understand that bacula backs up files directly to the object
storage and does not use volumes.

Robert Gerber
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 10:38 AM Mehrdad Ravanbod
mailto:mehrdad.ravan...@ampfield.se>> wrote:

Hi guys

I am new to bacula and trying to figure it out and testing atm

I have it installed on a RHEL9 server with clients on 2
windows computer
( one server, one win7 client) and trying to set up backups
both via VSS
and indiviual file/folders to disk(mainly a NAS and shares)

Only problem is i am having trouble finding any guides or
resources
handling this, almost everything i have found s far is backup
of Linux
machines and concentrated on Tapes/autochangers etc
I would appreciate any pointers towards relevant material or
if anyone
has any exple configuration files(dir, fd, sd conf files etc)

Also, is there anyone who has experience of long term back up
with
bacula?? How easy is it to archive backups/data for several
years?? How
easy is it to access such archives?? Do you need teh records
to be in
the database for such archives?? Can they be accessed even if
something
happens to database??

Regards /Mehrdad




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[Bacula-users] Backup from windows

[Mehrdad Ravanbod]

Hi guys

I am new to bacula and trying to figure it out and testing atm

I have it installed on a RHEL9 server with clients on 2 windows computer 
( one server, one win7 client) and trying to set up backups both via VSS 
and indiviual file/folders to disk(mainly a NAS and shares)


Only problem is i am having trouble finding any guides or resources 
handling this, almost everything i have found s far is backup of Linux 
machines and concentrated on Tapes/autochangers etc
I would appreciate any pointers towards relevant material or if anyone 
has any exple configuration files(dir, fd, sd conf files etc)


Also, is there anyone who has experience of long term back up with 
bacula?? How easy is it to archive backups/data for several years?? How 
easy is it to access such archives?? Do you need teh records to be in 
the database for such archives?? Can they be accessed even if something 
happens to database??


Regards /Mehrdad




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