Re: [Bacula-users] Backing up Windiows 7 64-bit

2013-04-04 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 01.04.2013 18:07, schrieb Phil Stracchino:
 On 04/01/13 11:25, dweimer wrote:
 Runs fairly well, but VSS seems to fail causing the backup to fail 
 every three to four days.
 
 Ah, so that really hasn't improved since I was using Bacula on Windows
 2000 then.  The same thing happed there; VSS would occasionally just Not
 Work.

I wonder if that's a problem of the client versions of Windows.
I am backing up a mix of Windows Server 2000 (don't ask ...),
2003 and 2008 servers and haven't had a VSS failure in months.

 (And to make it worse, neither VSS nor NTBackup would reliably,
 consistently read open registry hives, meaning if anyone was logged in
 when the backup ran, the registry would be incomplete.)

Maybe that's the point. My servers aren't terminal servers, so
they don't have users log in interactively, only the occasional
administrator.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Backing up Windiows 7 64-bit

2013-04-02 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello,

2013/4/1 Phil Stracchino ala...@metrocast.net

 So, after a mostly-unsuccessful[1] experiment with Acronis TrueImage,
 I've decided to revisit backing up the four Windows 7/64 machines on my
 network using Bacula.  However, I understand there is significant
 complexity in correctly handling mount points in the Windows Vista/7
 family.


Is the key word 'Volume Mounted Points (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_volume_mount_point)?
If so, do you want to use VSS with VMP?
If so, you have to assign a drive letter to the VMP to successfully backup
files with Bacula. FileSet-Include-File should point to the drive letter
assigned not to the VMP itself.

If this is not the case (no VSS nor VMP) then there is no need to do
anything special for Windows Vista/7/8. I managed some number of Windows
Vista/7 machines without a problem. I use a standard FileSet for this like
File = C:/ or File = C:/Users, etc. I use VSS.

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[Bacula-users] Backing up Windiows 7 64-bit

2013-04-01 Thread Phil Stracchino
So, after a mostly-unsuccessful[1] experiment with Acronis TrueImage,
I've decided to revisit backing up the four Windows 7/64 machines on my
network using Bacula.  However, I understand there is significant
complexity in correctly handling mount points in the Windows Vista/7
family.  Also, since the OS files on the four should be more similar
than anything else on ,my network, I think they'd probably be a good
test case for base jobs.

So:  Does anyone who has Bacula working on 64-bit Windows 7 (three Win7
Home, one Win7 Pro, if that makes a difference) have a working-example
fileset and configuration for Windows 7 clients?  Anything else I need
to know about Windows 7 64-bit and Bacula?

All tips appreciated.



[1]  Image backup mode worked well, but file-level was so slow as to be
unusable (two hours into file-level backup of a machine with 320GB of
mirrored SATA2 disk, on which an image backup completes in maybe 30
minutes, it was estimating five and a half days to complete).  Two of
the four test clients immediately configured to use the desired NAS
backup share on the first try; the remaining two, I had to fight with
for an hour on that point alone.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Backing up Windiows 7 64-bit

2013-04-01 Thread dweimer
On 04/01/2013 9:53 am, Phil Stracchino wrote:
 So, after a mostly-unsuccessful[1] experiment with Acronis TrueImage,
 I've decided to revisit backing up the four Windows 7/64 machines on 
 my
 network using Bacula.  However, I understand there is significant
 complexity in correctly handling mount points in the Windows Vista/7
 family.  Also, since the OS files on the four should be more similar
 than anything else on ,my network, I think they'd probably be a good
 test case for base jobs.
 
 So:  Does anyone who has Bacula working on 64-bit Windows 7 (three 
 Win7
 Home, one Win7 Pro, if that makes a difference) have a working-example
 fileset and configuration for Windows 7 clients?  Anything else I need
 to know about Windows 7 64-bit and Bacula?
 
 All tips appreciated.
 
 
 
 [1]  Image backup mode worked well, but file-level was so slow as to 
 be
 unusable (two hours into file-level backup of a machine with 320GB of
 mirrored SATA2 disk, on which an image backup completes in maybe 30
 minutes, it was estimating five and a half days to complete).  Two of
 the four test clients immediately configured to use the desired NAS
 backup share on the first try; the remaining two, I had to fight with
 for an hour on that point alone.
 
 
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I am using this configuration with windows 8, didn't change it any when 
I updated from windows 7.  Both Pro x64, I haven't ran one on home 
version.

Note below, I have two Disk drives setup, C: and J:, J: is a software 
iSCSI drive in this setup, it does run a little slow, about 5MB/s but I 
am using gzip, and drive J: contains VMware virtual machines, which 
compress around 62% which accounts for the sluggishness.  Make sure you 
install the 64bit version of the software or VSS will not work, also the 
installer will likely fail to properly generate the configuration files, 
in my case the director configuration on the monitor part had blank 
values, which caused the service to fail to start.  Obviously below my 
passwords have been removed, so make sure you put some real data in 
those if you copy and modify my configuration.

Runs fairly well, but VSS seems to fail causing the backup to fail 
every three to four days.

Server Client Configuration:
Client {
   Name = workstation-fd
   Password = ...
   Address = workstation.dweimer.local
   FDPort = 9102
   Catalog = MyCatalog
   AutoPrune = yes
   File Retention = 20 days
   Job Retention = 20 days
   Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 4
}

FileSet {
   Name = Workstation
   Enable VSS = Yes
   Ignore FileSet Changes = Yes
   Include {
 File = C:/
 File = J:/
 Options {
   signature = MD5
   Compression = GZIP5
   OneFS = yes
   Accurate = yes
 }
   }
   Exclude {
 File = *$RECYCLE.BIN
 File = *$Recycle.Bin
 File = *:/Temp
 File = *:/Windows/Temp
 File = *:/hiberfil.sys
 File = *:/pagefile.sys
 File = *:/System Volume Information
 File = *:/*.vmem
   }
}

Job {
   Name = Workstation
   JobDefs = DefaultJob
   Client = workstation-fd
   FileSet = Workstation
   Schedule = WeeklyCycle
   Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 4
}

PC File Daemon Configuration:
FileDaemon {
   Name = workstation-fd
   FDport = 9102
   WorkingDirectory = C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working
   Pid Directory = C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working
   Plugin Directory = C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\plugins
   Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10
}

Director {
   Name = bacula-dir
   Password = ...
}

Director {
   Name = bacula-mon
   Password = ...
   Monitor = yes
}

Messages {
   Name = Standard
   director = bacula-dir = all, !skipped, !restored
}

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Re: [Bacula-users] Backing up Windiows 7 64-bit

2013-04-01 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 04/01/13 11:25, dweimer wrote:
 Runs fairly well, but VSS seems to fail causing the backup to fail 
 every three to four days.

Ah, so that really hasn't improved since I was using Bacula on Windows
2000 then.  The same thing happed there; VSS would occasionally just Not
Work.  (And to make it worse, neither VSS nor NTBackup would reliably,
consistently read open registry hives, meaning if anyone was logged in
when the backup ran, the registry would be incomplete.)


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