Re: [Bacula-users] full and incremental backups

2013-02-02 Thread Adrian Reyer
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 09:56:21AM +0200, Süleyman Kuran wrote:
 Now the problem; full and incremental backups are not bound to
 pools, bacula just picks up the last full backup to compare,
 regardless of the pool when preparing for the incremental. When I
 remove the cartridgeout of the office, there is a chance that the
 corresponding full backupsare still located in the library, and my
 montly backup is useless without a recent full backup.
 How can i make sure my monthly backup consists of a full backup and
 incrementals derived from the full *on the same **media*

What about a copy job, selected jobids by sql. You should be perfectly
able to create a valid and complete backup. The drawback is, you need
either more than 1 tape drive or sufficient disk storage to buffer it in
between.

Regards,
Adrian
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Re: [Bacula-users] full and incremental backups

2013-02-02 Thread John Drescher
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:03 AM, John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Süleyman Kuran sku...@ayk.gov.tr wrote:
 Hi List,

 I am scheduling montly backups to move to an off-site location in case of a
 disaster. Monthly backup job copies a full backup 1st friday night of every
 month then backups up incremental on the remaining days of month. What I am
 trying to achive is to export a tape cartridge 1 st friday of every month
 before leaving the office containing the full and incrementals backup ups of
 the previous month.  The schedule config is as follows :


 Schedule {
   Name = MultipleRUN
   Run = Level=Full Pool=Daily mon-sun at 3:17
   Run = Level=Full Pool=Weekly sun at 9:05
   Run = Level=Incremental Pool=Weekly mon-sat at 5:05
   Run = Level=Full Pool=Monthly 1st fri at 22:05
   Run = Level=Incremental Pool=Monthly sun-fri at 2:05
 }


 Now the problem; full and incremental backups are not bound to pools, bacula
 just picks up the last full backup to compare, regardless of the pool when
 preparing for the incremental. When I remove the cartridge out of the
 office, there is a chance that the corresponding full backups are still
 located in the library, and my montly backup is useless without a recent
 full backup.

 How can i make sure my monthly backup consists of a full backup and
 incrementals derived from the full on the same media


 I would do a separate job and schedule for the offline set. This way
 the incrementals will work correctly instead of being based on the
 daily full backups.

In this case you keep the exact same fileset but have a different job
and a different schedule resource.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] full and incremental backups

2013-02-02 Thread Süleyman Kuran
On 02/02/2013 02:04 PM, John Drescher wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:03 AM, John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Süleyman Kuran sku...@ayk.gov.tr wrote:
 Hi List,

 I am scheduling montly backups to move to an off-site location in case of a
 disaster. Monthly backup job copies a full backup 1st friday night of every
 month then backups up incremental on the remaining days of month. What I am
 trying to achive is to export a tape cartridge 1 st friday of every month
 before leaving the office containing the full and incrementals backup ups of
 the previous month.  The schedule config is as follows :


 Schedule {
Name = MultipleRUN
Run = Level=Full Pool=Daily mon-sun at 3:17
Run = Level=Full Pool=Weekly sun at 9:05
Run = Level=Incremental Pool=Weekly mon-sat at 5:05
Run = Level=Full Pool=Monthly 1st fri at 22:05
Run = Level=Incremental Pool=Monthly sun-fri at 2:05
 }


 Now the problem; full and incremental backups are not bound to pools, bacula
 just picks up the last full backup to compare, regardless of the pool when
 preparing for the incremental. When I remove the cartridge out of the
 office, there is a chance that the corresponding full backups are still
 located in the library, and my montly backup is useless without a recent
 full backup.

 How can i make sure my monthly backup consists of a full backup and
 incrementals derived from the full on the same media

 I would do a separate job and schedule for the offline set. This way
 the incrementals will work correctly instead of being based on the
 daily full backups.
 In this case you keep the exact same fileset but have a different job
 and a different schedule resource.

 John
Thanks for yor reply John,
I have more than 15 different fd-clients that needs to be backed up, is 
it practical to create extra 15 more jobs for monthly offsite backups?

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Re: [Bacula-users] full and incremental backups

2013-02-02 Thread Dan Langille

On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Adrian Reyer wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 09:56:21AM +0200, Süleyman Kuran wrote:
 Now the problem; full and incremental backups are not bound to
 pools, bacula just picks up the last full backup to compare,
 regardless of the pool when preparing for the incremental. When I
 remove the cartridgeout of the office, there is a chance that the
 corresponding full backupsare still located in the library, and my
 montly backup is useless without a recent full backup.
 How can i make sure my monthly backup consists of a full backup and
 incrementals derived from the full *on the same **media*
 
 What about a copy job, selected jobids by sql. You should be perfectly
 able to create a valid and complete backup. The drawback is, you need
 either more than 1 tape drive or sufficient disk storage to buffer it in
 between

I like the idea of copy job the best.

Take your full backup and copy it to a special pool, one which is always 
destined for off site transport.

Your original backup remains on site.  No chance of a mix up.

If you want to try that, I've written stuff about copy jobs:

http://www.freebsddiary.org/bacula-disk-to-tape.php
http://www.freebsddiary.org/bacula-disk-to-tape-via-sql.php

Read them both, all the way through, before trying anything.  :)

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[Bacula-users] full and incremental backups

2013-01-31 Thread Süleyman Kuran

Hi List,

I am scheduling montly backups to move to an off-site location in case 
of a disaster. Monthly backup job copies a full backup 1st friday 
nightof every month then backups up incremental on the remaining days of 
month. What I am trying to achive is to export a tape cartridge 1 st 
friday of every month before leaving the office containing the full and 
incrementals backup ups of the previous month. The schedule config is as 
follows :



Schedule {
  Name = MultipleRUN
  Run = Level=Full Pool=Daily mon-sun at 3:17
  Run = Level=Full Pool=Weekly sun at 9:05
  Run = Level=Incremental Pool=Weekly mon-sat at 5:05
*Run = Level=Full Pool=Monthly 1st fri at 22:05*
*Run = Level=Incremental Pool=Monthly sun-fri at 2:05*
}


Now the problem; full and incremental backups are not bound to pools, 
bacula just picks up the last full backup to compare, regardless of the 
pool when preparing for the incremental. When I remove the cartridgeout 
of the office, there is a chance that the corresponding full backupsare 
still located in the library, and my montly backup is useless without a 
recent full backup.


How can i make sure my monthly backup consists of a full backup and 
incrementals derived from the full *on the same **media*




Regards,

Suleyman

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