Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-17 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, wt., 11 lut 2020 o 19:19 Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users < bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> napisał(a): > On 2/11/20 10:59 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > > > Because a community _always_ know better then developers. :) Just read > some > > hot threads on this group. > > BS. This is

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-12 Thread dmaziuk via Bacula-users
On 2/12/2020 11:05 AM, William Muriithi wrote: A better way would have been to say, yes, I understand I am exposed if someone was to get in my network and delete both the data and the backup, but I accept and plans to live with that risk.. If somebody gets in my network and "securely

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-12 Thread William Muriithi
Hi Dima, >> Also, how do you backup the backup box itself? > > I don't. ;) > > Yes, it you want all your change history in a tape archive in a vault > somewhere far away, that would be a problem because snapshots are not visible > to your tape backup software. But then you may want to

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-12 Thread dmaziuk via Bacula-users
On 2/12/2020 9:54 AM, Josh Fisher wrote: That could make upgrading OS on the involved boxes a potential problem and seems to imply all client boxes/VMs must use the same OS version at all times. Yeah, but rolling upgrades are a PITA anyway so what else's new. Also, linux-to-linux you're

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-12 Thread Josh Fisher
On 2/11/2020 1:17 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users wrote: On 2/11/20 10:59 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: ... This is a small tip of the ideberg! and the devil is in the details - always! I.e. how you want a single SD disconnection and reconnection to be handled? Do you want to fail the

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-11 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
On 2/11/20 10:59 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > Because a community _always_ know better then developers. :) Just read some > hot threads on this group. BS. This is IT 101: users don't know what they want. >> > This is a small tip of the ideberg! and the devil is in the details - > always!

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-11 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, pon., 10 lut 2020 o 11:37 Heitor Faria napisał(a): > Hello Radoslaw, > > Perhaps you should consider a total FD revamp that allows: > > - Parallel Client disk reading streams, for faster backups even for a > single SD device writing; > This a functionality which is led by Kern, Eric and

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-11 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, pon., 10 lut 2020 o 23:01 Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users < bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> napisał(a): > On 2/10/20 4:12 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > > > So, why not to design a special kind of SD which will get data from FD > and > > then save it on different backend SD

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
On 2/10/20 4:12 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > So, why not to design a special kind of SD which will get data from FD and > then save it on different backend SD synchronously defining full and > flexible RAIT or EC solution? How should I know why you need a "specail" SD instead of a

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
On 2/10/20 11:31 AM, Josh Fisher wrote: > What about a SD writing to multiple local 'Device' objects? And segueing > into a related subject, why is a job locked into a particular Device at > job startup? Rather than a one-time allocation of device and then one or > more subsequent allocations of

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-10 Thread Josh Fisher
On 2/10/2020 5:12 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: Hello, pt., 31 sty 2020 o 16:27 dmaziuk via Bacula-users > napisał(a): ... the 2nd SD can write to "the cloud", it can be on the off-site box, etc. Whereas amanda-style RAIT device only

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-10 Thread Heitor Faria
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Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-10 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, pt., 31 sty 2020 o 16:27 dmaziuk via Bacula-users < bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> napisał(a): > On 1/31/2020 3:33 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > > > >> Amanda had "RAIT" since forever. > >> > > > > If you would be so kind and have an idea how it could be implemented in > >

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-02-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello, If I am not mistaken, the RAIT code in Amanda was taken from code written long ago by CERN.   That code was mainly for speed rather than redundancy. Writing to multiple simultaneous devices has always been on the projects list for Bacula, however, until recently it has never been a

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-31 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
On 1/31/20 10:36 AM, Josh Fisher wrote: > > Actually, it is pretty tricky from user space and why the need for the > md kernel module in Linux. For true RAIT, like for RAID, it should be a > device driver. Yes, iff you need true RAIT. If all you want is to write to 2 file descriptors instead of

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-31 Thread Josh Fisher
On 1/31/2020 10:25 AM, dmaziuk via Bacula-users wrote: On 1/31/2020 3:33 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: Amanda had "RAIT" since forever. If you would be so kind and have an idea how it could be implemented in bacula and so kind to describe it on this list it would be implemented by

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-31 Thread dmaziuk via Bacula-users
On 1/31/2020 3:33 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: Amanda had "RAIT" since forever. If you would be so kind and have an idea how it could be implemented in bacula and so kind to describe it on this list it would be implemented by developers. I don't have any idea how it could be

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-31 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, czw., 30 sty 2020 o 17:30 dmaziuk via Bacula-users < bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> napisał(a): > Amanda had "RAIT" since forever. > If you would be so kind and have an idea how it could be implemented in bacula and so kind to describe it on this list it would be implemented by

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-30 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 2020-01-30 11:29, dmaziuk via Bacula-users wrote: > On 1/30/2020 9:20 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: > >> There is not a way to stream the same backup job to two different >> storage devices simultaneously, no. That question has come up before. >> But as Davide suggests, you could copy the job(s)

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-30 Thread dmaziuk via Bacula-users
On 1/30/2020 9:20 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: There is not a way to stream the same backup job to two different storage devices simultaneously, no. That question has come up before. But as Davide suggests, you could copy the job(s) afterwards. I'm doing something along these lines; my backups

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-30 Thread Heitor Faria
st you. =) Regards, > From: "bacula-users" > To: "Davide Franco, dev" > Cc: "bacula-users" > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:12:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup > Thank you all for your response to my ques

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-30 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 2020-01-30 10:12, Rao, Uthra R. (GSFC-672.0)[ADNET SYSTEMS INC] via Bacula-users wrote: > Thank you all for your response to my question. So, it looks like there > is no easy way one can set-up bacula to backup simultaneously to the > tape and to the cloud. There is not a way to stream the

Re: [Bacula-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: bacula cloud backup

2020-01-30 Thread Rao, Uthra R. (GSFC-672.0)[ADNET SYSTEMS INC] via Bacula-users
Thank you all for your response to my question. So, it looks like there is no easy way one can set-up bacula to backup simultaneously to the tape and to the cloud. UR. From: Davide Franco Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:41 AM To: Rao, Uthra R. (GSFC-672.0)[ADNET SYSTEMS INC] Cc: