In a message dated 2/6/2005 2:24:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> You said earlier that you were touched by the words of Muhammed in the> Qur'an and found it more filling than those of the Bible. > Leaving aside for> a moment your criticisms of Christianity and the sacred
In a message dated 2/6/2005 2:24:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Baha`u'llah chastises the current Islamic leaders and > figures, but nowhere does He criticise Islam or Muhammed.Yes, that's what I had in mind when I said "ad hominem". Except Bahaisoften look at Muslims t
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"Confessions amongst evangelical non-Catholics takes the form of public
"testimony" about their behavior before they committed themselves to Christ"
Yeah, in fact because he said testimonies, I thought that was what he was
talking about.
warmest, Susan
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"Very few people have substantial experience with
both religions and so their objection seems more likely to be based on
something else."
Dear Gilberto,
I think you will find Baha'is more often do have experiences with both
religions.
warmest, Susan
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:30:22 -0600, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "I noticed a similar reaction in here the last time I tried to compare
> and contrast Islam and Christianity (in terms of their attitudes on
> finality). Is that somehow problematic from a Bahai perspective to see
> diff
In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:15:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Confession is moreof a Catholic thing and not done so much by evangelicals.
Confessions amongst evangelical non-Catholics takes the form of public "testimony" about their behavior before they committed thems
"I noticed a similar reaction in here the last time I tried to compare
and contrast Islam and Christianity (in terms of their attitudes on
finality). Is that somehow problematic from a Bahai perspective to see
differences among these religions"
Nope. But if they don't correspond with other people
Dear Khazeh,
That was really sweet of you but I doubt that he was telling *you* to shut up.
-Gilberto
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:59:39 -, Khazeh Fananapazir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wonder if the moderators could draw this long winded, rancorous, inbox
> filling discussion to an end?
>
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:19:45 -0600, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> " **in my experience** Christians
> are in more of an emotional mode. Confession, public testimony,
> spontaneous expressions of feelings are more prominent in Christian
> worship."
> Dear Gilberto,
> It sounds like yo
" **in my experience** Christians
are in more of an emotional mode. Confession, public testimony,
spontaneous expressions of feelings are more prominent in Christian
worship."
Dear Gilberto,
It sounds like your experience is mostly with evangelicals Christians who
make up only a small portion of
In a message dated 1/10/2005 8:26:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>I seem to recall banned any new person claiming to have
revelation. I don't remember it only limiting independent
manifestations.<<"Yes, I believe so.
"
What the passage in question literally
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:41:55 -, Khazeh Fananapazir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Khazeh:
> > Baha'u'llah invites us [with all due respect to Pascal and his reasons of
> the heart] that we do not allow our reasons of heart distort the truth or
> the search for the truth. ..kf>
Gilberto:
> But I
Steve,
At 03:32 PM 2/6/2005, you wrote:
>>I wonder if the moderators could draw this long winded, rancorous, inbox
>>filling discussion to an end?<<
The discussion is repetitive, but I personally find it useful.
Nonetheless, since you raised the issue, the managers will discuss it.
Regards, M
I wonder if the moderators could draw this long winded, rancorous, inbox
filling discussion to an end?
This lowly one would agree with my dear brother from New Zealand Steve
Cooney if he wishes to "shut me up" so to speak. Maybe Steve is doing me a
service. But I swear there is absolutely absolu
My dear brother Gilberto Simpson
Tonight in
http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist/m44637.html
Tonight you write kindly: initially quoting this lowly servant of yours:
> For example, very sadly and regrettably, you will find on sites such as
http://www.faithfreedom.org/ people who were Moslems
I wonder if the moderators could draw this long winded, rancorous, inbox
filling discussion to an end?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilberto Simpson
Sent: Monday, 7 February 2005 9:51 a.m.
To: Baha'i Studies
Subject: Re: The Three Quota
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:08:46 -, Khazeh Fananapazir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You find people falling in love with a concept, with a belief, with a set of
> ideas and becoming alienated with previous ideas they held equally
> passionately.
> For example, very sadly and regrettably, you will
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:14:03 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 2/6/2005 11:51:27 AM Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> But it isn't just a Muslim issue. I think Bahais are actually using a
> different form of logic and reasoning which
In
http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist/m44631.html
dear Gilberto writes:
"**But if you are asking why I believe I think there are a couple of things.
When I read the Quran MY HEART WAS ATTRACTED TO IT. It spoke to me. It
didn't rub me the wrong way in the same way that certain parts of the B
In a message dated 2/6/2005 11:51:27 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But it isn't just a Muslim issue. I think Bahais are actually using adifferent form of logic and reasoning which other people aren't using.There are certain principles (or I might say fallacies) which seem t
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:44:01 -0800 (PST), JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It might seem logical to Bahais, but not necessarily to others. For
> > example, one "answer" Bahais give is to say that all the prophets were
> > the "seal of the prophets" which tends to render the phrase
> > meaningl
> It might seem logical to Bahais, but not necessarily to others. For> example, one "answer" Bahais give is to say that all the prophets were> the "seal of the prophets" which tends to render the phrase> meaningless.
JS: To a Muslim it seems meaningless, but to a Baha'i it is the most meaningful
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 07:41:32 -0800 (PST), JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gilberto:
> But even if you wanted to ignore that [finality of prophethood], or if you've
> addressed that some other way,
JS:
> > Obviously, Baha'is don't ignore it, but address the issue in a different,
> though logical
But even if you wanted to ignore that, or if you've addressed thatsome other way,
> Obviously, Baha'is don't ignore it, but address the issue in a different, though logical, way.
I've sometimes asked what criteria one could apply to the Bahaiwritings in order to determine whether or not the book
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 19:14:58 -0800, Richard H. Gravelly
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As these two verses appear together in the Book, would not the only
> questions to a Muslim be: "Has there now come a new Book?" and "How > shall
> I determine that this is the Book?"
The obvious first response
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