Re: Words and Meanings

2006-07-24 Thread smaneck
words have no meaning, people have meanings. I would appreciate it very much if someone could explain what this means. Dear Tim, I can tell you what I meant by that. ;-} Words in and of themselves have no instinsic meaningm they are just sounds. But those that use them intend

Re: Words and Meanings

2006-07-24 Thread Michael Alcorn
Hi Tim, Words have no meaning unless we understand them. In my case, words in a language that I don't understand have no meaning for me, but people as a generic term have meaning. Best wishes Mike - Original Message - From: Tim Nolan To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Monday,

RE: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-24 Thread Ian Kluge
RE The Trouble With Islam Today by Irshad Manji, recommended by Albert: I also highly recommend this book. Manji asks the tough, unavoidable questions that need to be dealt with both within contemporary Islam and outside of it. Her advantage is that she is a Muslim who speaks from direct

Re: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-24 Thread Albert
Ian Kluge wrote: RE The Trouble With Islam Today by Irshad Manji, recommended by Albert: I also highly recommend this book. Manji asks the tough, unavoidable questions that need to be dealt with both within contemporary Islam and outside of it. Her advantage is that she is a Muslim who speaks

Re: Is there self examination in Islamic societies

2006-07-24 Thread smaneck
Dear Friends, If you want to see an even-handed approach to the ramifications of Islam in geo-political terms I would recommend you look at the book *Good Muslim, Bad Muslim: America, the Cold War, and the Roots of Terror* by Mahmood Mamdani. But I do not want to see this list become a

re: Words and Meanings

2006-07-24 Thread firestorm
hmmm. i know what u said...not what u mean. i have a sebnse of what u reported, not what u mean. i have beenb engaged in a 4 year ongoing discussion with a number of people who will not understand that the suffix _ity has a value, means something sepcific, concretly affectsthe noun or

Words and Meaning

2006-07-24 Thread Tim Nolan
Hi Susan,Words in and of themselves have no instinsic meaning; they are just sounds.Yes. I think the book Finnegans Wake is a good example of this.But those that use them intend things by those sounds, and what they intend is the meaning. I see this the same way. Words do