Re: Freedom of religion

2004-06-18 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
e - From: "Brent Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:22 PM Subject: re: Freedom of religion > > I heard that Shoghi Effendi at one point removed a person from the Cause without declaring him

re: Freedom of religion

2004-06-18 Thread Brent Poirier
I heard that Shoghi Effendi at one point removed a person from the Cause without declaring him an enemy of the Faith or a Covenant-breaker, based on the verse "leave that soul to himself". That is, that there was precedent for the House of Justice removing a person from the rolls. Brent _

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-18 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
ot, tenacious. Not so the prayerful, Who are ever constant at their prayers; (Rodwell, The Steps) Richard. - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Freedom of Religion "Here are so

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-18 Thread Susan Maneck
"Here are some of my thoughts on this.  The Qur'an also states that Muslims should not dispute with people of "The Book" (implying Jews and Christians). I would think that not disputing includes not killing."   Dear Patti,   There are plenty of other ways of understanding th

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-18 Thread Patti Goebel
"That is certainly not what they would say they were doing. What they do is take the verse "kill the infidel wherever you find him" which was revealed later, as abrogating "let there be no compulsion in religion." But let me stress, only some Muslims do this. " Susan, Here are some of my tho

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-18 Thread Patti Goebel
Where in the Quoran does it say "kill the infidel wherever you find him". It doesn't come up in Ocean.   I think this is what you are looking for:   That is because those who misbelieve follow falsehood, and those who believe follow the truth from their Lord. Thus does God set forth for men

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-16 Thread Eric Sloan
Where in the Quoran does it say "kill the infidel wherever you find him". It doesn't come up in Ocean. Thanks Mike S 9:5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of w

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-16 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Read the ninth Chapter of the Quran, Michael. I think is should be there. Warmest regards, Iskandar On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Michael Alcorn wrote: > Dear Susan, > Where in the Quoran does it say "kill the infidel wherever you find him". It doesn't > come up in Ocean. > Thanks > Mike

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Alcorn
Dear Susan, Where in the Quoran does it say "kill the infidel wherever you find him". It doesn't come up in Ocean. Thanks Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:27 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Freedom of Religion

2004-06-15 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:44:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this mean that some Muslims believe that human understanding is more authoritative than the Qur'an?  If they believe that any verse of the Qur'an can be abrogated because of worldly circumstance, then t

Re: Freedom of religion

2004-06-15 Thread Smaneck
g what the Muslim clergy point of view is on the interpretation of this verse. Is this an accurate translation from the Arabic? This verse seems to imply freedom of religion. Dear Larry, The verse "Let there be no compulsion in religion" does as much as well but I have heard some Muslims a

Freedom of religion

2004-06-15 Thread Larry Marquardt
n accurate translation from the Arabic? This verse seems to imply freedom of religion. Thank you. And, Thank You for your contributions to help me understand the recent Two Witnesses question. Truly, I had no idea of the complexity of the details surrounding the understanding of this verse from Revela