On 8/4/06, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I mean, state lotteries are used to fund school systems but if you
> really wanted to fund a school system it would probably be more
> effective to make a direct donation yourself. People who play lottery
> tickets are hoping to win when they d
> I mean, state lotteries are used to fund school systems but if you
> really wanted to fund a school system it would probably be more
> effective to make a direct donation yourself. People who play lottery
> tickets are hoping to win when they do so, not necessarily hoping to
> improve their local
Do you look at the intention of the "gambler" or the nature of the
"casino" (or both? and how do they relate?)
I mean, state lotteries are used to fund school systems but if you
really wanted to fund a school system it would probably be more
effective to make a direct donation yourself. People wh
> Hi Susan, I have played Bingo, poker, etc. in family meetings
> (there are azar games)... In the other hand (azar games as
> recreation to earn a bit money ;-) Are you saying that we cannot
> play lottery anytime?
Dear Hasan,
No, I didn't say that. Lotteries are for charitable purposes. Eve
That is true[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My recollection is that alcohol is only gradually prohibited in the Qur'an itself. At first the Qur'an merely says there is good and bad in wine, but the bad exceeds the good. Then it says don't go to prayer drunk, something hard to do if you imbibe at all
Hi Susan, I have played Bingo, poker, etc. in family meetings (there are azar games)... In the other hand (azar games as recreation to earn a bit money ;-) Are you saying that we cannot play lottery anytime? If so, how did you come to infer that? If there is an authoritative interpretation, Id lov
Gilberto Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:If you believe in the Bible, they weren't just mute on this particularquestion. Important rituals in the old and new testament involvedrinking wine. If you do a search on "wine" in the Bible you actuallyfind a lot of quotes. Absolutely! But t
On 8/3/06, Scott Saylors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To the list in general and Gilberto in particular,
I think the question as to why Jesus or Moses were mute on this particular
question is tied up with the concept of "progressive revelation".
If you believe in the Bible, they weren't just mu
My recollection is that alcohol is only gradually prohibited in the
Qur'an itself. At first the Qur'an merely says there is good and bad
in wine, but the bad exceeds the good. Then it says don't go to prayer
drunk, something hard to do if you imbibe at all and pray five times a
day. Afterwards
> I infer that gambling as source of bahá?ís funds is forbidden
> (also gambling as an occupation is inadvisable), but I don?t think
> it is completely forbidden for recreation purposes. "As far as
> individuals are concerned, we have carefully studied the Writings
> of 'Abdu'l-Bahá and Shoghi
> What about Jesus, Moses or the other Manifestations?
Jesus and Moses did not. You have to keep in mind that in this time
period water was not save to drink and people didn't know about
boiling it. But wine was often mixed with water which disinfected it.
Also, in those days it was not possib
Monder M Zbaeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dear Scott, I don't think there necessarily is a contradiction between accepting the Qur'an as the perfection of the Tourat and the Injeel and 'progressive revelation', per se. Obviously to the Islamic community, progressive may have ended wi
Dear Scott, I don't think there necessarily is a contradiction between accepting the Qur'an as the perfection of the Tourat and the Injeel and 'progressive revelation', per se. Obviously to the Islamic community, progressive may have ended with the Dispensation of Muhammad, but it is relativel
To the list in general and Gilberto in particular, I think the question as to why Jesus or Moses were mute on this particular question is tied up with the concept of "progressive revelation". This concept is not really acceptable to Islam in general because Islam believes that the Qur'
On 8/2/06, Hasan Elias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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don't get why recent
> past Prophets as the Báb or Muhammad did not forbid it.
Huh? Muhammad and the Bab did forbid it.
What about Jesus, Moses or the other Manifestations?
I won't comment on Jesus and Mose
Very well so my friend. The verses I quoted were only in response to alcohol issue with respect to Muhammad etc. Other issues such as gambling, pig meat etc weren't the issue of discussion. Much love, MonderHasan Elias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I infer that gambling as source of bahá
Title: Re: RE: alcohol in meals
At 10:30 PM -0500 8/2/06, Hasan Elias wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
don't get why recent
> past Prophets as the Báb or Muhammad did not forbid it.
Huh? Muhammad and the Bab did forbid it.
What about Jesus, Moses or the other
Manife
I infer that gambling as source of baháís funds is forbidden (also gambling as an occupation is inadvisable), but I dont think it is completely forbidden for recreation purposes. "As far as individuals are concerned, we have carefully studied the Writings of 'Abdu'l-Bahá and Shoghi Effendi on t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:don't get why recent > past Prophets as the Báb or Muhammad did not forbid it. Huh? Muhammad and the Bab did forbid it. What about Jesus, Moses or the other Manifestations?
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I put again the questionHasan Elias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: I think is a malpractice for bahá'ís to eat a rum pudding (if he knows what is a rum pudding), but I don't see the problem to eat a meal where alcohol is vaporized and gone. I checked some web pages that indicate that alco
(this happened before I became a Baha'i, so
> I had no
> excuse not to eat it). ;-)
Uh huh. Like you were looking for one. ;-}
> Didn't 'Abdu'l-Baha (or maybe Shoghi Effendi) say something once
> about not
> making an issue of alcohol content in food when we're somebody's
> guest, in order
don't get why recent
> past Prophets as the Báb or Muhammad did not forbid it.
Huh? Muhammad and the Bab did forbid it.
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In a message dated 8/2/06 7:48:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>My understanding is that rum puddings have quite a lot of alcohol left
>in them.
Yeah-- my mother made one once for a British-themed dinner party that I swear
was at least 80 proof (this happened before I became a Baha'i, so I had
Moreover, if alcohol is so bad for humans, I don't get why recent past Prophets as the Báb or Muhammad did not forbid it. Because many wines are the same as past wines, so, conditions didn't change on this case. I think you'll find they did my friend.. The Holy Quran, 2.219: They ask thee c
I think is a malpractice for bahá'ís to eat a rum pudding (if he knows what is a rum pudding), but I don't see the problem to eat a meal where alcohol is vaporized and gone. I checked some web pages that indicate that alcohol vaporizes when boils or is putted to high degrees. Moreover, if
Thanks Sandra and friends to answer. So, the alcohol doesn't vaporize? What about meals where (for example) a meat is cooked (boiled or fried) with alcohol? In my country, there are few typical plaits that uses a little bit of alcohol, and people (including bahá'ís) love to eat, and I think i
But I'm not about to give up my
> extracts, which have 30 to 90 per cent alcohol by
> volume, because Shoghi Effendi said not to eat
> flaming rum puddings or sip a toast. I think we
> need to use some common sense.
My understanding is that rum puddings have quite a lot of alcohol left
in th
> Is there any
> rational explanation of why bahá'ís cannot eat meals cooked with alcoholic
> drinks? When the alcohol boils, only the savor survives and the alcohol
> vaporizes.
There was a study conducted in the early 1990's at one of the universities
in the state of Washington that disproved th
Title: Re: alcohol in meals
At 11:19 PM -0500 8/1/06, Hasan Elias wrote:
Hi
Don,
So, Do you think is
permissible for bahá'ís to eat a meal cooked with alcoholic drink?
A meal where alcohol is vaporized? I don't see any argument against
this, if alcohol is gone, so why we can&
Hi Don, So, Do you think is permissible for bahá'ís to eat a meal cooked with alcoholic drink? A meal where alcohol is vaporized? I don't see any argument against this, if alcohol is gone, so why we can't eat that meal?Don Calkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: ...The argument has been ma
Title: Re: alcohol in meals
At 9:27 PM -0400 8/1/06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In a message dated 8/1/2006 4:01:38 PM US Mountain
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
friends,
Not related
to quotes on alcohol, just for curiosity: Is there any rational
explanation of why b
I always felt that it meant, finally, that alcohol would be resigned
forever to the medicine cabinet and never be kept again as a food item.
And, in reach of temptation. :-) However, this is a purely personal
understanding.
Yours,
Jeanine
Hasan Elias wrote:
Hi friends,
In a message dated 8/1/2006 4:01:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
friends,
Not
related to quotes on alcohol, just for curiosity: Is there any rational
explanation of why bahá’ís cannot eat meals cooked with alcoholic drinks? When
the alcoho
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