Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread John Smith
"We did not leave anything out of this Book, then all will be gathered before their Lord [for judgement]. (Qur'an 6:38)" G: I don't think it gives positive support, they aren't even mentioned or implied. And in order to harmonize it you have to qualify "anything" to a certain degree... ...that's

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Dear John, Your previous post was edited in an odd way. Certain comments were left out and I think it was a little unclear what arguments/comments were being responded to. I'll try to clarify. On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:59:03 -0800 (PST), John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did not leave

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Gilberto, At 10:30 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote: And I would suggest that Bahais don't seem to be very worried about all those other figures they are implicitly saying no to. In one sense, none of that matters. What God expects of His servants is to recognize His Messenger in the age He

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:02:22 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Gilberto, At 10:30 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote: And I would suggest that Bahais don't seem to be very worried about all those other figures they are implicitly saying no to. In one sense, none of that matters.

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread JS
G: Even today, there are many different groups claiming to be ledby the mahdi or his successors, or the second coming of christ, or thelatest installation of God's religion. From the Moonies, to the BranchDavidians, to the Matreya followers, to the Ahmadiya, or theAnsarullah, or the Nation of

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Gilberto, At 11:49 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote: But even Iblis and the Dajjal have a particular spiritual function, no?, For those who believe in the devil and/or the anti-Christ, they have a function. A position, even an imaginary one, can perform a role (expected behavior) without having an

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:59 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Gilberto, At 11:49 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote: But even Iblis and the Dajjal have a particular spiritual function, no?, Mark: For those who believe in the devil and/or the anti-Christ, they have a function. A

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:15:39 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G: Even today, there are many different groups claiming to be led by the mahdi or his successors, or the second coming of christ, or the latest installation of God's religion. From the Moonies, to the Branch Davidians,

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Mark A. Foster
Gilberto, At 01:49 PM 1/10/2005, you wrote: I didn't mean to invoke a discussion on whether Satan is literally real or metaphorical or something else. I just meant that at least as I understand it, the Dajjal is supposed to be a false claimant and that in fact there would be many false

Re: Christian Rejection of Islam - was [Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-10 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Gilberto, Sorry, I forgot to respond to your last paragraph. I wrote: I accept all of their claims equally. However, I am not asserting a divine involvement with all of them. (How would I know?) I am simply affirming the particularity of their paradigms. As I said before, whether I

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Popeyesays
In a message dated 1/9/2005 3:08:29 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What great spiritual truth of one religion was missing from the previous ones? This is much like saying: "So what in particular were you never told?" Regards, Scott

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:11:21 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/9/2005 3:08:29 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What great spiritual truth of one religion was missing from the previous ones? This is much like saying: So what in particular

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Popeyesays
In a message dated 1/9/2005 5:39:45 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: actually think that the different bags are going to mostly have thesame contents. I would be hard pressed to find something which is onebag and not in the others. The contents might be arranged

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:59:41 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/9/2005 5:39:45 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: actually think that the different bags are going to mostly have the same contents. I would be hard pressed to find something which

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Popeyesays
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:13:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I"m not sure what you mean. The Bahai faith claims to be a progressionor advancement over Islam and other religions, no? If so, wouldn'tthat imply that there is something in the Bahai bag, which isn't inthe

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:14:50 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:13:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im not sure what you mean. The Bahai faith claims to be a progression or advancement over Islam and other religions, no? If so,

Re: Responding with affection. Recalling 6:154 as well as 6:38] adding Biblic...

2005-01-09 Thread Popeyesays
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:39:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nevertheless its a sincere response. Instead of resorting toname-calling you should just say where the mistake is. To call a response "obtuse" is not calling anyone a name, Gilberto. No offense was