Sounds like it will be a cool presentation. I was struck by one phrase in one section.:
St. Bernard ofClairvaux , the most famous mystic and monk of his day,was scandalized by such an approach to the sacred.He condemned Abelard asscrutinizer of majesty and fabricator of heresies, who deems
ALL Bahais, no matter what side of the argument they are on, will say they
believe in the independent investigation of truth but then the difference
will be what they mean by the phrase.
Dear Gilberto,
That much is true. But there are some Baha'is who take the position that the
independent
ALL Bahais, no matter what side of the argument they are on, will say
they
believe in the independent investigation of truth but then the
difference
will be what they mean by the phrase.
That much is true. But there are some Baha'is who take the position that
the
independent search for truth ends
Brother Gilberto wrote:
St. Bernard of Clairvaux , the most famous mystic and monk of his day,
was scandalized by such an approach to the sacred. He condemned Abelard as
scrutinizer of majesty and fabricator of heresies, who deems himself able
by human reason to comprehend God altogether.
This is a beautiful concept - surely truth is relative and not absolute.
According not only to our individual capacities and potential but also to
'progressive revelation'. thank you Khazeh for your wonderful references.
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Yet we are told truth is relative...
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 03:39:15 -0400
ALL Bahais, no matter what side of the argument they
Dick, Khazeh (and others) make what I see as the salient point in the
discussion.
'Abdu'l-Baha points out that the investigation of truth must lead a
soul to the realization of the Manifest One… (Bahá'í World Faith -
Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 251)
His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh has revoiced and
Hello Susan,
Is there any chance you could record a digital copy of your talk? It
sounds interesting, and if it were recorded on an mp3 player (like and
iPod or iRiver etc.) it could be re-used in various ettings. I'd love
to spot it as a podcast on my podcast series, for instance. Even if
you
Hello all,
I have decided to start my Quranic studies (re-studies?) with Michael
Sells rendering of the earl Suras. You brought this to my attention,
Dr. Maneck.
I bought his book yesterday and it includes a CD of Recitals of the
early suras. I already like the approach it takes. By focusing on
On 8/7/05, Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brother Gilberto wrote:Gilberto:I was struck by the independent investigation of truth because of you are suggesting that this tension in Christianity is echoed in the Bahai faith, it seems to me that since IIT is a Bahai principle
Dear Ursus,
A good book which covers alot of different subjects related to the Quran from a mainstream sunni perspective is Ulum al Qur'an (Sciences of the Quran)
by Ahmad von Denffer which is available free, online at
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/Denffer_uaq/
It has a chapter
The independent search for truth should end once you find the truth.
If it doesn't end there, then you haven't found the truth.
Dear Dean,
Well, thanks for proving my case to Gilberto. ;-}
It would not make much sense for us to have a principle aimed at non-Baha'is
and not applicable to
Uh, I'm not techie enough to
Is there any chance you could record a digital copy of your talk? It sounds
interesting, and if it were recorded on an mp3 player (like and iPod or
iRiver etc.
Uh, I'm not techie enough for that sort of thing Ron, but it is possible the
folks who run Firestarter make
I also like the attention Mr
Sells gives to the auditory sound and poetry etc.
Dear Ron,
That is what I like about Sells. He has a better appreciation for the beauty
of the Qur'an and is able to convey it better than any translator I know.
Is the concept of
Abrogation of earlier verses by later
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Hello Susan,
Is there any chance you could record a digital copy of your talk? It
sounds interesting, and if it were recorded on an mp3 player (like and
iPod or iRiver etc.) it could be re-used in various ettings. I'd love
to spot
Thanks Ron,
Good to hear your voice. Shouldn't have gone on so long that you didn't get
a chance to ask questions. I was a little nervous about the direction some
of the questions were going, if you know what I mean.
warmest, Susan
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