Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-17 Thread David Friedman
Dear Don, I didn't say whatever *might*, I said knows is likely. There's a big difference. It is the reason for putting restrictions on the clothing women wear at Baha'i events. Have some restrictions been made? What are you referring to? Regards, David

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-17 Thread Don Calkins
On 8/17/03 11:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't say whatever *might*, I said knows is likely. There's a big difference. It is the reason for putting restrictions on the clothing women wear at Baha'i events. Have some restrictions been made? What are you referring to? Sure.

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-17 Thread Sheila Spatz
Ok let's go for this argument:) If this is to be held to be true then it's corellary must also be held true. That any time a man does something he knows will be arousing to a woman he is practicing sex outside of marriage. Also, if he makes it clear that he has no intention of getting serious

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-17 Thread Ahang Rabbani
It's against my better judgment to comment on this thread, but what the heck ... Dear Don, You wrote: Any behavior or action by a woman which she knows is likely to elicit a sexual response by a man who is not her husband is, in my opinion, sexual activity outside marriage and therefore

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-17 Thread David Friedman
Dear Don, Any behavior or action by a woman which she knows is likely to elicit a sexual response by a man who is not her husband is, in my opinion, sexual activity outside marriage and therefore prohibited under Baha'i law. I would agree that women should not try to do something that

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-16 Thread Sekhmet209
In a message dated 8/16/03 4:46:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the sex outside of marriage thing... It will never be corrected within the faith or any other group untill men start getting serious about chastity for themselves. Personnally, although I see the merit of male chasity

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-16 Thread Don Calkins
On 8/17/03 01:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you're joking; by that definition we'd have to dress in chadors just to go grocery shopping! Oh wait... in some societies we do... --Sekhmet Well, if that's the only alternative you can think of, I guess that's the only choice you

Re: men and sex outside of marriage

2003-08-16 Thread Sekhmet209
In a message dated 8/16/03 9:36:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't there something in the Writings about that? ;-) And if he met the fairest and most comely of women, he would not feel his heart seduced by the least shadow of desire for her beauty. Such an one, indeed, is the creation of