It's no different than medical research involving medical record
reviews, which happens all the time. The confidentiality of Assembly
minutes can be maintained in the same fashion. However, not all words
of all minutes of all Assembly meetings need be protected under
confidentiality.
Susan
However, not all words
of all minutes of all Assembly meetings need be protected under
confidentiality.
Dear Marleen,
Those involving personal problems are likely to be the most confidential of
all, and these are the ones most important for a study such as the one Jim
is suggesting.
warmest,
M. Chase wrote:
Personally, I don't care who does the research. A more important point
in my mind is that Bahais need to figure out for themselves what works
and doesn't work in the administrative order and how to make
improvements. We need to be able to learn how the administration order
William wrote:
Having said that, I would like to see more scientific research into
the community. But it should not be in any way official.
Sounds good to me.
Jim
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Mark, you wrote my name at the beginning of your previous post, but I
couldn't find anything in it addressed to me. Did I miss something?
Jim
Jim,
At 08:31 AM 10/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
I say that there is mind control and cult abuse within the Baha'i community.
Mind control is a
Jim,
At 10:49 AM 10/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
Mark, you wrote my name at the beginning of your previous post, but I couldn't find
anything in it addressed to me. Did I miss something?
I was replying to this message from you:
http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist/m40393.html
Mark A. Foster *
I am not sure that if I were on the NSA I would commission a
scientific study on social problems within the Baha'i Faith. For a
start research takes up resources.
Dear William,
I agree they wouldn't do it under that rubric. But they might very well be
interested in a study which focused
Contrary
to what I said the NSA could and should commission some kinds of
research. I suppose there is no reason it cannot commission research
and construct some distance between it and the research. I need to
think again. Although I still think we should allow and construct a
sphere of
William Michael wrote:
Next, I am not sure what status the final output of the research is
supposed to have. Does it become the 'official view' of the matter?
And then I would want to know what we were supposed to do with what we
found out. What use or value would it have?
Dear Michael,
An
then an academic
study of social problems in the Bahai Faith could be very significant.
Marleen, I agree. What I'm interested in especially is a cultural study
of the ways common social problems manifest themselves in the Baha'i
community, the special problems that present themselves, and
Dear Jim,
Fred Glaysher's website is so full of lies and distortions I don't know how
it can be relied on for anything whatsoever. Heck, he accused Mark Foster here
of censoring the Baha'i AOL Message Board when he was too sick to monitor it
for months. In Fred's eyes this was all part of
Something tells me you don't approve of Fred's Web site.
And it has nothing to do with the fact he has nine pages on it denouncing
me. ;-}
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Perhaps the real problem is a lack of will and courage to face problems, preventing the initiation of any studies.
Dear Marlene,
I think Ken Bowers would be quite open to conducting such studies if
significant.
I am not sure that if I were on the NSA I would commission a
scientific study on social problems within the Baha'i Faith. For a
start research takes up resources. Next, I am not sure what status
the final output of the research is supposed to have. Does it become
the 'official view
Has there been any scholarship on social problems within the Baha'i Faith,
such as abusive behavior, corruption of institutions, and mind-control
cults?
Jim
Jim, I think the questions are unduly harsh. I've helped with
investigations of sensitive cases as an ad hoc basis from time to time; I
I am not sure that if I were on the NSA I would commission a
scientific study on social problems within the Baha'i Faith. For a
start research takes up resources.
Dear William,
I agree they wouldn't do it under that rubric. But they might very well be
interested in a study which focused
Has there been any scholarship on social problems within the Baha'i Faith,
such as abusive behavior, corruption of institutions, and mind-control
cults?
Jim
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So, has there been any (other?) scholarship on social problems within the
Baha'i Faith?
Jim
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Jim,
At 10:42 AM 10/10/03 -0500, you wrote:
Has there been any scholarship on social problems within the Baha'i Faith, such as
abusive behavior, corruption of institutions, and mind-control cults?
There have been opinion pieces but, to my knowledge, no objective treatments of this
subject
Has there been any scholarship on social problems within the Baha'i
Faith, such as abusive behavior, corruption of institutions, and
mind-control cults?
There have been opinion pieces but, to my knowledge, no objective
treatments of this subject.
I'm not sure that there could be. I'm not sure
Susan,
At 04:04 PM 10/10/03 -0400, you wrote:
Love and Estrangement with the Baha'i community
That is one of the books I was thinking about in the first category. It is, of course,
not academic, and it also avoids specifics (probably unavoidably).
Mark A. Foster * http://MarkFoster.net
Susan and Mark, thank you very much. If you do hear about any
sociological research on the subject, please let me know.
Jim
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Susan Maneck wrote:
Of course,
there are instances of abusive behavior within the Baha'i community just as
there is anywhere. Perhaps a little more, since we are dealing with a bunch
of amateurs. ;-} But these things are hardly systemic and worthy of an
academic study. And how would one go about
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