Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Ramdas S
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Umar Shah uma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, With the customization that trac offers by way of plugins, I am sure you will find all your requirements fulfilled. Umar On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Sujit Ghosal thesu...@gmail.com wrote: I think you can

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 11:48 +0530, Ramdas S wrote: I also would like to draw your attention to http://bitbucket.org/. I had stopped using trac once I shifted to bitbucket - but now there is a requirement for a private system hosted on our own server. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 11:57 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote: heard good things about it - but as you said it is built on Ruby - I want python. Even if it is in Ruby it is good. I am using it to manage my team activities in my office . unfortunately I am a python fanatic ;-) -- regards

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 10:49 +0530, Nigel Babu wrote: Have you tried Redmine? Its built on ruby and I was recommended it multiple

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Nigel Babu
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 10:49 +0530, Nigel Babu

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Dark Seid
'even if it's on Ruby?' :D If you're looking for a task manager, I've had extremely good experiences with Pivotal Tracker (which is hosted and free), so much so that we now even use it for our recruiting pipeline at C42 Engineering. If I had lots of $$$ to burn I'd use ThoughtWorks' Mingle but

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Nigel Babu wrote: [...] I plead guilty. But yeah, I'm looking forward to something other than trac but built on python too. I'm still yet to find it and unsure if its worth the effort. [...] Trac is nice but with things like github, bitbucket etc. out there, it has

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Ramdas S
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah s...@mahiti.orgwrote: On 20 October 2010 12:23, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 11:57 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote: heard good things about it - but as you said it is built on Ruby - I want python.

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:19 +0530, Dark Seid wrote: If you're looking for a task manager, I've had extremely good experiences with Pivotal Tracker agile? I forgot to mention that I suffer from arthritis so cannot do agile ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:48 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: However, both of these are 'mostly' bug trackers or at best software project management tools. You mentioned that you're looking for something more general. Would something like a internal wiki work better? it is not software

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 16:57 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: I'm just interested in situations where you'd stay away from something *just* because it isn't in Python. The only reason I'd stay away from something like this is if I needed to work on it's code and it was in a language that I wasn't

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: The project management thread highlighted this issue of if it's not in Python, I don't want to use it. Assuming that most of the people here are mostly python enthusiasts or learners, I'm wondering when you would *not*

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:23 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: If you don't feel agile, just do this before starting to code on your Python prompt. import antigravity I wish I could do that to my golf ball -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:57:52PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* use Python. Let's not When there is an extreme need for speed for processing large data sets. When it is more CPU intensive than Network IO Intensive. When the libraries and packages

Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager

2010-10-20 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:48 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: However, both of these are 'mostly' bug trackers or at best software project management tools. You mentioned that you're looking for something more general. Would something like a internal

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana
I'm just interested in situations where you'd stay away from something *just* because it isn't in Python. The only reason I'd stay away from something like this is if I needed to work on it's code and it was in a language that I wasn't familiar with and didn't have the time to learn. Also,

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Santosh Rajan
I have a slightly tangential take on this subject. I do web development and it is entirely python nowadays. Having said that let me quote Eric Raymond. *Lisp is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience you will have when you finally get it; that experience will make you a better

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Gopalakrishnan Subramani
I won't develop DESKTOP based application in Python. Desktop means non-browser based application but like MFC/VC++ stuffs. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:57:52PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: learners, I'm wondering when

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:22 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: Comments? I agree. As the Perl monks put it, use the right tool for the right job. You should know when to stop looking for a programming language specific solution. ok - but why repeat your mail as many 6 times?

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:22 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: Comments? I agree. As the Perl monks put it, use the right tool for the right job. You should know when to stop looking for a programming language specific solution. 9th time this message has come -- regards

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:34 +0530, Santosh Rajan wrote: I have learned and use Clojure a dialect of Lisp for some odd jobs just for this reason. 4th time this message has hit the list (I think something has gone wrong somewhere - either in this list or in gmail) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Guruprasad
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: I agree. As the Perl monks put it, use the right tool for the right job. You should know when to stop looking for a programming language specific solution. 9th time this message has come I have got it once, just

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread steve
Hi, On 10/20/2010 05:34 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote: I have a slightly tangential take on this subject. I do web development and it is entirely python nowadays. Having said that let me quote Eric Raymond. *Lisp is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience you will have when you

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Azhagu Selvan SP
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:47 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:34 +0530, Santosh Rajan wrote: I have learned and use Clojure a dialect of Lisp for some odd jobs just for this reason. 4th time this message has hit the list (I think something has gone wrong

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: [...] Maybe for rough n dirty use-once-and-throw parsers, [...] Exactly. My point is that there are good use cases for it as there are for most languages and sticking to a langauge just because one has some kind of emotional attachment

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, steve wrote: On 10/20/2010 05:38 PM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani wrote: I won't develop DESKTOP based application in Python. Desktop means non-browser based application but like MFC/VC++ stuffs. Interesting. Not that I know anything about MFC/VC++ but in the linux world a

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Santosh Rajan
First of all I don't like java, and just like the author suggested Clojure is tightly coupled to java. However even if you don't know java you still can program in clojure like I do. My motivation to learn clojure was entirely due to Eric Raymond's quote. Of course I could have learned any other

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Dark Seid wrote: [...] By and large though, my primary driver is productivity. I don't care about much else. If it's more productive (for me), I'll adopt it, whether it's a OS, language, library, tool, community or methodology. Examples for me where I've made switches -

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread steve
On 10/20/2010 04:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: The project management thread highlighted this issue of if it's not in Python, I don't want to use it. Assuming that most of the people here are mostly python enthusiasts or learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* use Python. Let's not

Re: [BangPypers] Co-operating threads

2010-10-20 Thread Anomit Ghosh
Talking of co-operating threads, I like the idea of greenthreads implemented with the help of greenlets[1] in eventlet [2]. Another similar library is gevent[3] that uses a hub like eventlet but that purely uses libevent. You can leave the scheduling upto the hubs in both these libraries which

Re: [BangPypers] Co-operating threads

2010-10-20 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: 3. If you have any experience with countless other Python concurrency libraries for solving problems like this ? I recently had chance to use twisted.internet.task.Cooperator for doing a large file transfers in

Re: [BangPypers] When *not* to use Python

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 18:33 +0530, Azhagu Selvan SP wrote: 4th time this message has hit the list (I think something has gone wrong somewhere - either in this list or in gmail) Some problem with your mail server I suppose. I received it only once and there is a single message in the