On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
abpil...@gmail.com wrote:
Nobody said Python is a better language than PHP. Indeed comparing both
is a bit of apples to oranges comparison since both languages are designed
for totally different intentions. Python is a general
On Sunday 11 Oct 2009 10:13:26 am Vivek Khurana wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
wishful thinking
How ?
there are three types of logic:
1. deductive logic: eg: php is fundamentally insecure, this app is in php,
therefore it is
Hi,
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:
0 day Django exploit in the wild -
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=872533
http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2009/oct/09/security/
Fixed rather quickly but found rather late. One of the reasons is
probably
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
abpil...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
For example, this is a very common way of doing a select using PHP.
$query = SELECT * FROM products WHERE name=’$productname’;
mysql_query($query);
Only that this kind of SQL is very
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
I have done 2 php pages and a bunch of python. My guess is PHP makes
it easier to write vulnerable code, but I am really going on on a limb
here, so I'll not try to support this notion.
+1 PHP indeed makes it easier
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
[..]
I need to inject...
The line should be:
cursor.execute(query, ('burger', '2009-09-10 12:00:00'))
Ah. Then it's just a case of the API doing the quoting internally
which points to a better API than a better
On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 8:09:17 pm Vivek Khurana wrote:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com
wrote:
I have done 2 php pages and a bunch of python. My guess is PHP makes
it easier to write vulnerable code, but I am really going on on a limb
here, so I'll not
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com
wrote:
[..]
I need to inject...
The line should be:
cursor.execute(query, ('burger', '2009-09-10 12:00:00'))
Ah. Then it's just a case of the
On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 10:46:49 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
0 day Django exploit in the wild -
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=872533
http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2009/oct/09/security/
cool - now that django *has* security problems, more people will be
comfortable in using it ;-)
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and not
affecting anything critical. There is something radically wrong in a software
that gets one core critical issue a month (even then drupal is
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:41:38 pm Vivek Khurana wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and not
affecting anything critical. There is something radically wrong in a
software that
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
http://demo.ilugc.org.in
and
http://demo.ilugc.in
The drupal site is looking more pleasing. And it is not that you have
to spend sleepless nights. One upgrade a month is more than sufficient
to keep system up to date
However, if someone will cover my plane ticket and hotel
room .
Forgive me if I am being typical...
Do you mean MHRD, India by someone?
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Sent from the
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com
wrote:
[..]
They are only advocating Python for scientific community and not for
web frameworks or CMSs.
They are only expressing that there is no
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 9:48:35 am Anand Chitipothu wrote:
and spread FUD about plone, but is also a slap in the face for all of us
who are engaged in python advocacy.
I think they have done a quite good job of picking a random CMS and
not wasting their valuable time in implementing a
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
I am not objecting to their choice of CMS, I am objecting to the blog post -
which clearly sends the message that 'python sucks'.
Python do sucks when it comes to having a CMS. I am yet to find a
decent CMS in python
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 12:44:33 pm Vivek Khurana wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
wrote:
I am not objecting to their choice of CMS, I am objecting to the blog
post - which clearly sends the message that 'python sucks'.
Python do sucks when it
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Kadambari Devarajan
kadambari.devara...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
The first Scientific Computing with Python conference in India
(http://scipy.in) will be held from December 12th to 17th, 2009 at the
Technopark in Trivandrum, Kerala, India
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 10:31:10 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Kadambari Devarajan
kadambari.devara...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
The first Scientific Computing with Python conference in India
(http://scipy.in) will be held from December 12th to 17th, 2009
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 1:58:17 pm Vivek Khurana wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 12:44:33 pm Vivek Khurana wrote:
if it has matured, how come there are still at least one critical
security issue per month?
Good
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote:
You may not agree to the view that Python doesn't have good CMS
softwares. But saying that there is good CMS in python doesn't mean
python sucks.
If there are good CMS softwares in Python then why nobody in this
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote:
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and not
affecting anything critical. There is something radically wrong in a
software
that gets one core critical issue a month (even then drupal is
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
abpil...@gmail.com wrote:
-1. Not a great way to build software. I wonder what they will
end up with. You might end up with some-thing half-assed that
is neither Drupal nor Python.
Instead of doing line by line, do it at module
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:26:38 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and not
affecting anything critical. There is something radically wrong in a
software that gets one core critical issue a month (even then drupal is
better than
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:32:33 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
+1. You got to be a forgiving Solomon to remain so cool after reading
that post and I am not one when it comes to rants which are baseless. If
you agree with the poster that there are no good CMS in Python, then it
is your
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
abpil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com
wrote:
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and
not
affecting anything critical. There is something
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:32:33 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
+1. You got to be a forgiving Solomon to remain so cool after reading
that post and I am not one when it comes to rants which are baseless. If
you agree
I think its because its just so damn easy to roll-your-own that it
doesnt matter.
I'm sure many people on this list have rolled their own blogs, etc
perhaps combining some existing apps for the purpose (My blog
http://www.rajeevsebastian.com uses lifeflow with some custom mods and
a custom
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote:
I think its because its just so damn easy to roll-your-own that it
doesnt matter.
I'm sure many people on this list have rolled their own blogs, etc
perhaps combining some existing apps for the purpose (My blog
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote:
This is what is said in the Django FAQ also.
Be practical. You are asking to write a Django application and start
customizing it by writing code and take the headache of maintaining
it?
It is super-easy to
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:57:14 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
because plone is a killer app and has killed all the other python CMS's
So you agreed to my point.
1. Plone is difficult to customize
customise as in maybe interfacing it with an RDBMS - otherwise it is dead easy
to add new apps -
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 4:00:59 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
I'm sure many people on this list have rolled their own blogs, etc
perhaps combining some existing apps for the purpose (My blog
http://www.rajeevsebastian.com uses lifeflow with some custom mods and
a custom skin).
Possible.
Possible. But writing a software requires time and you need to maintain it.
how much time? I wrote and deployed the ilugc.org.in site in two hours and
deployed it in 10 minutes and I can happily sleep at night because I know
there will be no need for security patches and maintainence. The
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 4:27:36 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
Possible. But writing a software requires time and you need to maintain
it.
how much time? I wrote and deployed the ilugc.org.in site in two hours
and deployed it in 10 minutes and I can happily sleep at night because I
know
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Madhusudan C.S madhusuda...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks for clarifying. We(The Python group of the FOSSEE team) have been
looking at this thread and the thread on Scipy India 2009 - SciPy.in.
I don't want to make any comments on the exchanges in the threads.
Dear Anand,
It is as much your assumption that KG's one line comment referred to
scipy.in that started this. And the first page of fossee.in explains
that python is only one of the components of the project.
All the comments about the appropriateness of drupal for a python
conference site are
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 4:44:10 pm Asokan Pichai wrote:
It is as much your assumption that KG's one line comment referred to
scipy.in that started this. And the first page of fossee.in explains
that python is only one of the components of the project.
my objection was not to the use of drupal
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 4:44:10 pm Asokan Pichai wrote:
All the comments about the appropriateness of drupal for a python
conference site are misguided--because the conference site __is__ in
django.
shameless plug
incidentally there is a readymade locally available conference management
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
Btw, some part or whole of scipy.in is running on Django.
[..]
Scipy.in is in django
fossee.in is drupal
Details here http://fossee.in/blog/Drupal
--
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
And equally inappropriate are the comments along the lines of 'for
propagating python how can you use drupal?' because the site is for
more than python and that is explained in the first page.
[..]
Like I said earlier,
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
And equally inappropriate are the comments along the lines of 'for
propagating python how can you use drupal?' because the site is for
more
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Madhusudan C.S madhusuda...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
Thanks for clarifying. We(The Python group of the FOSSEE team) have been
looking at this thread and the thread on Scipy India 2009 - SciPy.in.
I don't want to make any comments on the exchanges in the threads.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
[..]
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and not
affecting anything critical. There is something radically wrong in a software
that gets one core critical issue a month (even then drupal is
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
I am not objecting to their choice of CMS, I am objecting to the blog post -
which clearly sends the message that 'python sucks'.
Python
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
If there are good CMS softwares in Python then why nobody in this
group hasn't named a single one other than Plone?
[..]
Perhaps not a general drupal like CMS but infogami which you work on
is surely an option?
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
If there are good CMS softwares in Python then why nobody in this
group hasn't named a single one other than Plone?
[..]
There is Skeletonz http://orangoo.com/skeletonz/
Which is pretty user friendly from the
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Pradeep Gowda prad...@btbytes.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com
wrote:
[..]
If there are good CMS softwares in Python then why nobody in this
group hasn't named a single one other than Plone?
[..]
There is
Hi All,
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
cool - I wish your conference all the best,
Thank you.
but I have a serious beef. I would suggest that before spreading python
around the world, you could take a fewdays off and spread python around your
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:38:25 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
wrote: [..]
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and not
affecting anything critical. There is something radically wrong in a
software
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:38:25 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
wrote: [..]
django, plone has about one issue every two years - usually minor and
not
I so wanted to attend this too bad... I have my exams... :(
where will the PyCon vids be put up?
Kadambari Devarajan wrote:
Greetings,
The first Scientific Computing with Python conference in India
(http://scipy.in http://scipy.in/) will be held from December 12th
to 17th, 2009 at the
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 9:48:35 am Anand Chitipothu wrote:
and spread FUD about plone, but is also a slap in the face for all of us
who are engaged in python advocacy.
I think they have done a quite good job of picking a random CMS and
not wasting their valuable time in implementing a
I am not objecting to their choice of CMS, I am objecting to the blog post -
which clearly sends the message that 'python sucks'.
They only cribbed about Plone, Pinax and Django-cms. I can't see
anything in that blog post that sounds as python sucks. Did I miss
anything? Can you please tell me
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