Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:10 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: I hear from others (BRUG, BarCamp Bangalore) that first time posters who send recruitment mails are simply rejected. That sounds like a sane policy to me. chennaipy rejects all recruitment mail that does not have any concrete reference

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:47 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: So, job postings not at all related to Python are fine as long as they're prefixed with [JOB]? no - unless it is a generic 'programmers wanted' post without specifying tools. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:56 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: So, random headhunters/recruiters are free to use this list to post for any job postings but the onus is on the list members to filter out the Python related postings from the non python ones. Correct? Am I the only one who thinks

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 20:17 +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote: Sorry, poking fun at a company's board of directors, etc, is in poor taste, and cannot be condoned off as light hearted humor. Poking fun at a company's practices, especially one which one may not yourself practice and therefore not be

[BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-14 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
This is obviously dividing the list into camps and that's not healthy. What is the official stance of the list owners on this kind of post? It would be good to know and state it so that this kind of thing is avoided again. I hear from others (BRUG, BarCamp Bangalore) that first time posters who

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 06:10:14PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: What is the official stance of the list owners on this kind of post? It would be good to know and state it so that this kind of thing is avoided again. If there is a mistake, correct it. Don't ridicule. I hear from others

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com writes: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 06:10:14PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: What is the official stance of the list owners on this kind of post? It would be good to know and state it so that this kind of thing is avoided again. If there is a mistake, correct

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-14 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: This is obviously dividing the list into camps and that's not healthy. Nothing wrong in one expressing their opinion, I would not take it as unhealthy or it would divide camps. Its an open mailing list. OTOH People being

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 06:27:10PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com writes: If there is a mistake, correct it. Don't ridicule. Absolutely no light hearted jabs. Total shrink wrapped politeness would make for a very dull corporate atmosphere. I don't like it

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com writes: [...] My recollection from history is, it needs to be prefixed with [JOB] and jobs are not considered spam by many. I think, prefixing with JOB can help also people to filter them to spam folder, if they prefer it that way. So, job postings not

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Umar Shah
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com writes: [...] My recollection from history is, it needs to be prefixed with [JOB] and jobs are not considered spam by many. I think, prefixing with JOB can help also people to

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Umar Shah uma...@gmail.com writes: [...] People who are interested in just python jobs as most of guys here would be cant easily filter out non python ones. [...] So, random headhunters/recruiters are free to use this list to post for any job postings but the onus is on the list members to

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-14 Thread Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
On 14 September 2011 18:10, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts, This is Python mailing list. The mails should be wither around the topic. If a recruiter sends a mail for job XYZ which explicitly not invites people with python skils to apply, this list should treat it as spam.

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 06:47:58PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: So, job postings not at all related to Python are fine as long as they're prefixed with [JOB]? I thought the question was for Python jobs. If the question is for any job, then no. We may not expect irrelevant jobs to be posted

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Umar Shah
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Umar Shah uma...@gmail.com writes: [...] People who are interested in just python jobs as most of guys here would be cant easily filter out non python ones. [...] So, random headhunters/recruiters are free to use

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Shekhar Tiwatne
On Wednesday 14 September 2011 07:05 PM, Umar Shah wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahimnou...@gmail.com wrote: Umar Shahuma...@gmail.com writes: [...] People who are interested in just python jobs as most of guys here would be cant easily filter out non python ones.

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this is backward? No, definitely not. But you seem to be giving undue importance to this discussion by creating hypothetical scenarios. I think, we can tolerate some mistakes and just stay

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com writes: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this is backward? No, definitely not. But you seem to be giving undue importance to this discussion by creating hypothetical scenarios. I think,

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On 9/14/11, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com writes: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this is backward? No, definitely not. But you seem to be giving undue importance to this

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-14 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah s...@mahiti.orgwrote: On 14 September 2011 18:10, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts, This is Python mailing list. The mails should be wither around the topic. If a recruiter sends a mail for job XYZ which explicitly

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this is backward? No, definitely not. But you seem to be giving undue importance to this discussion by creating

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com writes: [...] If we get to a stage where we are really swamped by non-Pythonic JOB posting robots, we can incrementally take a better stand. No need for worrying about hypothetical scenarios now. Show some flexibility. [...] Fair enough.

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines

2011-09-14 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Fair enough. I don't think we'll ever arrive at an agreement about politeness and decorum so I'll personally stick to the common denominator and stay formal. I'd say we should bring down this formal stuff a bit. --

Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)

2011-09-14 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.comwrote: I hear from others (BRUG, BarCamp Bangalore) that first time posters who send recruitment mails are simply rejected. That sounds like a sane policy to me. No. First time posters are welcome. Spammers are not. Our