Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-18 Thread Srijayanth Sridhar
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Timmy Jose zoltan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Yo mate, you gotta just chill it a bit alright? I may not be a regular visitor in here but I have been a member from the very beginning of this small group of folks in here and I can vouch for Kenneth. Agreed that most

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 18 Oct 2009 5:25:09 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: With all due respect, it was anything but an off-the-hip reaction. I have been a member of mailing lists for over 15 years now - this is the first time I have seen the word 'bastard' used. I did not react as I thought you had left the

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-18 Thread Ramkumar Ramachandra
I don't think the issue has much to do with Indians copying. The answer to the original question is simple: It's because India is a poor country with a broken education system, where society has not learnt to recognize and foster innovation and independent thought in many fields. It's simple

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-18 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
Someone posted in this thread that very little Python is happening in this list. Cannot agree with that comment yet, but this thread has no Python in it and has overgrown itself. Closing this thread. Further posts are - not welcome. And I request no personal slanging matches in the future.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-18 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: Someone posted in this thread that very little Python is happening in this list. Cannot agree with that comment yet, but this thread has no Python in it and has overgrown itself. Closing this thread.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-16 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: [..] The thing that put me off about the book (but I'd still recommend it as an interesting read) was something he said in the early chapters about BIll Joy or computers or hackers ... I don't remember specifically what

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-16 Thread M.V.Ramana Murty
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy? To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India bangpypers@python.org Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 8:32 AM On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:22:25 +0530, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: Modern

[BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: [..] Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? [..] Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. --

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Hi list,

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service companies.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most important skills when entering a new discipline is learning the appropriate jargon and using it drive your queries. Search isn't generally a skill taught in

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Zaki Manian
I frequently speak of the challenge culture poses in doing product development in India. But in some sense, culture is a great problem to have. Culture can change and fairly fast. There are also fantastic opportunities for entrepeneurs so build microcosms of effective problem solving culture in

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
But StackOverflow http://stackoverflow.com/ is changing all that. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Yuvi Panda
Most important reason being people joining CS because of fashion and not because they like it. In my entire class of 68, only 4 joined CS because they liked it. The rest simply because they didn't want to 'disobey parents'. The 'don't question it' culture hurts. 20 people got 90+ in OOP in my

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. Thanks Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh shamee...@gmail.com wrote: Coming back

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh shamee...@gmail.com wrote: ... [:)] ... [:P]... ... [:)] ... [:)] Orkut overdose? :) Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Ramdas S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Tejas Dinkar
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic! There is a hypothesis presented in Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, on cultural

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread David Lyon
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:22:25 +0530, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: Modern education in India is often criticized for being based on rote learning rather than problem solving. BusinessWeek denigrates the Indian

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: failing - and if you do lose respect you hang yourself. In fact I once made a remark about RMS, and was told 'at least respect him as an elder'. Why should I? He is younger than me ;-) Hahaha. :-D *must avoid

Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?

2009-10-15 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:36:35 +0530 Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic!