Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:59PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 credits for first semester) on computer programming for business

[BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Shiv Shankar
Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Venkatraman S
I would recommend starting with http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ to get a feel of an 'application'. -V- http://twitter.com/venkasub ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 12:13:42 Shiv Shankar wrote: Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. just started the same thing yesterday! -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Chitipothu
2010/6/4 Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: I would recommend starting with http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ to get a feel of an 'application'. It might be just me but I think this is an *extremely* bad idea. I just tried the site and it looks like a nice point

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
Getting an application up and running with a few clicks of a mouse has the same effect as eating junk food. Your appetite goes away, you can claim that you've eaten something but there's close to zero nourishment. I love this analogy.gr8. +1 for all of your points. Regards, Srini T. --The real

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Venkatraman S
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: I would recommend starting with http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ to get a feel of an 'application'. It might be just me but I think this is an

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 12:55:19PM +0530, Venkatraman S wrote: Do NOT expect MBA grads to *program* - they are decision makers, they need Be whatever, even if you are president of a company and *want* to write a small program to move files around or add your salary, you better know the basics

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Vinayak Hegde
How about mathplotlib ? I haven't used it (yet but am planning to play with it for visualisation). What are the other good visualisation libraries for python. -- Vinayak On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: How about mathplotlib ? I haven't used it (yet but am planning to play with it for visualisation). What are the other good visualisation libraries for python. You mean matplotlib. It is a Python library meant for

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Shiv Shankar
Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that - like for example, if you are already familiar with Pygame or SDL. Its a

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that -

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: [/..] Its a strategical game anyways. This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread murugadoss
Further, on debug i got to know in tarfile.py (library file) function open( ) (Line 1147) where it is return the file attributes is failing, I am not able to make out the exact reason, why it is failing in 64-bit M/c , but the same is working in 32-bit M/c I have attached the part code with the

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 07:18:56PM +0900, murugadoss wrote: Further, on debug i got to know in tarfile.py (library file) function open( On man, you went too far. tar = /root/testtar.tar.gz Is this is a tarfile? Answer is No. -- Senthil ___

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 14:46:53 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Do NOT expect MBA grads to program - they are decision makers, they need language as a tool to augment their daily work - hence Macros. I can include some

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? War game, every one writes their own strategies to derive movement based on a intercommunication between objects. Objects are bots and one teams bot kills the

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: [..] Which is why I asked Kenneth about the intention of the course. It depends on that really. as a non-IT person and a non-programmer I have found that the ability to script some things gives me an immense sense of

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:27 AM, murugadoss murugadoss2...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am trying to extract a tar file. while doing this i check the valid tar file using is_tarfile( ). It is working fine in a 32-bit linux machine with python 2.5.4 version and when i try it out in a 64-bit

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 15:52:16 Shiv Shankar wrote: This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? War game, every one writes their own strategies to derive movement based on a intercommunication between objects. Objects are bots and one teams bot kills the others. Still in

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread murugadoss
Thank for the reply. The tar file is not corrupted, i am using the same file in 32-bit m/c and able to extract it. I have attached this output also with the mail. I am getting this problem only in 64-bit m/c. output from 32-bit m/c: tarfile.is_tarfile(tar) func bound method type.gzopen of class

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 16:24:16 Shiv Shankar wrote: Kenneth - how are you communicating between nodes ? I have watch towers which watch on nodes and act as mutual communication points. havent reached that stage yet - what has happened is that my favourite game used to be xconq - but it no

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 16:26:57 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: strange - this is what I am doing! Wow - is game programming so popular now a days ? I never tried it myself. don't - it is addictive, your wife and kid will never see you again ;-) -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread murugadoss
It is for collecting the binary data from the client system. wherein the binary data is sent in tar.gz format. The exact task is to collect the data, untar and do the processing. Initially the program is written in the 32-bit linux pc. It is completely working here. Today, i loaded the same

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
I enjoy it quite a bit. The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. With the libraries available, independant games are more feasible than ever. On 6/4/10, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:55 PM, murugadoss murugadoss2...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Initially the program is written in the 32-bit linux pc. It is completely working here. Today, i loaded the same program in the server pc (which is a 64-bit x86 pc), i end up with issue. [..] This is weird. Can you

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:55 PM, murugadoss murugadoss2...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Initially the program is written in the 32-bit linux pc. It is completely working here. Today, i loaded the same program in the server pc

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:55 PM, murugadoss murugadoss2...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Initially the program is written in the 32-bit linux

Re: [BangPypers] ReadError: opening tar file

2010-06-04 Thread Praveen Kumar
I doubt it whether V.Murugadoss has file itself correct? Is he able to extract the file with other compression program. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Well,

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Shiv Shankar
Wow - is game programming so popular now a days ? I never tried it myself. When has game programing lost its popularity ? The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. What was it ? ___ BangPypers mailing list

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote:  The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations Let me see how well it's received. If it's good, I'll present it here at the local BangPypers

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Rahul R
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations Let me see how well

Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.

2010-06-04 Thread Shiv Shankar
http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations Let me see how well it's received. If it's good, I'll present it here at the local BangPypers meetings if there's sufficient interest. It's a simple game that ties up a physics engine (ODE) and a graphics library (PyGame). A clone of the