Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: 1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource ,so many companies fear that their product's byte code could be reverse engineered.To protect  their Intellectual Property

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
The fact that Python is open source is orthogonal to the fact that it compiles source into bytecode which can be decompiled. Also Python can't be open source. Python is a programming language. A concrete implementation (eg. CPython) can be open source. By your logic, C is opensource (in it's gcc

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
could you fix your mail client please - the formatting is a mess and I cannot make out what is quoted and what is not On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:07:19 pm Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: The fact that Python is open source is orthogonal to the fact that it compiles source into bytecode which

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
If you look beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd mentality, you will realise that most languages have a good sweetspot they manage to excel at. I never searched for it .But in what domains Python is excellent compared to other OOP languages? I know that for AI ,you need to write

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: [..] I never searched for it .But in what domains  Python is excellent compared to other OOP languages? Glue apps. It seems to have a foothold in web programming Prototyping/Rapid development

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:17:23 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: So to put it simply - there is no simple cut and dry answer. If you look beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd mentality, you will realise that most

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: could you fix your mail client please - the formatting is a mess and I cannot make out what is quoted and what is not Hmm.. begs the question what could I do about it .. its GMail web client :D Not sure if I have a

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:47:01 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: You don't need to write code in lisp for AI. Lisp excels at symbol manipulation which was once thought of as an important feature of an intelligent system. I have written AI code in pascal -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:17:23 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: So to put it simply - there is no simple cut and dry answer. If you look beyond the

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Shashwat Anand
rant Companies coming for hiring (campus-placement) never look the knowledge of python as an additional advantage. Infact none of them care. I check-listed the profile of all the 20+ companies which came and none of them had to deal with anything python (except google, amazon, directi) and even

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:50:07 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: excellent answer - but you should add that choice of language and platform is most often done by suits without domain knowledge and on extraneous considerations[..] The converse where 'hackers' don't understand the forces that drive

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:54:44 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: could you fix your mail client please - the formatting is a mess and I cannot make out what is quoted and what is not Hmm.. begs the question what could I do

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Navin Kabra
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.comwrote: Mine one of senior (at Amazon) suggested me Go learn C++/ Java and improve your DS/ Algo/ OS/OOP skills On the other hand, I would like to point out that to really, really improve your DS/Algo skills (two of the

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:58:47 pm Shashwat Anand wrote: Just wanted to say that for a student, who want ti get recruited via campus placement knowledge of C/C++/Java is a must and the knowledge of python doesn't even count. Sad I would not say that - there is a demand in India for python

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Shashwat Anand
On the other hand, I would like to point out that to really, really improve your DS/Algo skills (two of the most important skills for a CS graduate, IMO), python is a great language. You can learn, and prototype, and experiment much faster than if you were to try the same thing in Java/C/C++

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Jeff Rush
Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: This is subjective. I personally think it's mainly marketing (Java had Sun and C# had MS). This leads to secondary effects like certifications (which are useful for non-tech hiring managers to evaluate potential employees), availability of 'resources' (since

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Navin Kabra navin.ka...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote: Mine one of senior (at Amazon) suggested me Go

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Arun Ravindran
Hi, 1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource ,so many companies fear that their product's byte code could be reverse engineered.To protect their Intellectual Property rights they stay away from python, is it true? If the company in question has great concerns abt