[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss Salzburg MS

2007-01-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
I have just heroically looked through 260 pages of the Ms. It appears neither in the incipit list nor in the music itself. RT Your list doesn't include this a minor Partita. Is it new then? DS On Friday, January 05, 2007, at 09:29AM, Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss Salzburg MS

2007-01-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
PS. Having played through it just now I notice a few errors in the original Ms. (uncorrected in the typesetting): Bar 30: second beat should have been the inversion of D major as a lead-in to G in 31. BAr 32: the bass notes should have been F then E, rather than [F]F, off the bat. RT -

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-05 Thread Jorge Torres
In the 17th century LeSage de Richee (1695), a self-proclaimed student of Mouton, uses three dots to indicate the right hand ring finger, but that's a 13-course instrument. None of the printed French sources prior to 1700 (Gault I and II, Gallot, Perinne, or Mouton) use the ring finger. Jorge

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-05 Thread Jorge Torres
Sorry, the designation I mentioned is from a MS for 13 course with instructions by LeSage, noted in Doug Smith and Peter Danner's article How Beginners...Should Proceed, JLSA, 1976. Jorge On 1/5/07 12:14 PM, Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-05 Thread Markus Lutz
Hi Jorge, as far as I know, Mathias is right. There are even in later mss only few hints that the ringfinger was used at all - but there are only few RH fingerings at all. Although I think that Falkenhagen etc. were using the ringfinger, there are to my knowledge no direct RH fingerings at all.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-05 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Sorry, the designation I mentioned is from a MS for 13 course with instructions by LeSage, noted in Doug Smith and Peter Danner's article How I think Jorge is speaking about a manuscript that contains the instructions by Lesage de R. but different music (for 13c. lute). In that music appear

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-05 Thread Jorge Torres
List: The Burwell informant makes it clear that the ring finger is not used: For the forefinger of the right hand we mark one dot; for the second finger, two dots. The two other fingers we do not use. (Dart, 31) This is in line with the printed French sources prior to 1700 (Gault I and II,