. The meeting is
"free as in free beer", despite no actual free beer being around ;)
More information can be found at
http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OsmocomMeeting/Berlin
Regards,
Harald
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n
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
free as in free beer", despite no actual free beer being around ;)
More information about the venue can be found at
http://www.in-berlin.de/space/
The official event announcement website is
http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/blog/david-rub-openair-20151015
Regards,
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for good, not just comment it out
b) the double-equals will not cause an assignment. I don't think you
tested this code...
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=
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 04:12:00PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> Can those eligible + interested in attending please quickly indicate
> their preference at http://doodle.com/poll/if263cpxieavsqiq ?
Thanks for the quick feedback. I have now chosen April 21st through
Apri
Pleaes do so. I'm happy to review and give feedback.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
he work gets done when we are not looking but
actually writing code :P No offence, I just couldn't resist...
All the best, I'd definitely love to see progress on the "SDR based PHY
for OsmocomBB" front.
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ISO7816 master integrated in the FPGA yet, poeple
could certianly add it later if needed.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a
Dear all,
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 12:54:33AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> I've just created the template wiki page for OsmoDevCon2016 at
>
> http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OsmoDevCon2016
>
> please add your name to the list if you're interested to attend (and
> q
Hi Holger,
let's move ahead and start with the migration, I can't wait to put all
the various tickets into a public redmine.
Thanks!
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There most likely are more advanced tools avaiailable, but I find that
already quite powerful.
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been a
wrong impression, and of course this year people could be in a different
mood.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a des
is doable or are there some hardware limitations that
> could prevent this ?
There certainly is no limitation in the hardware, if paging works with
the original Motorola/Compal firmware.
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also yes for the redirects.
> any objections or corrections to that?
none, please go ahead. Thanks a lot!
I wonder if it is worth to make the old wiki/issue trac databases
(without the user password hashes!) publicly available, in case somebody
has a need for old content.
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comBB as a channel for
lcr.
You could of course modify the softwrae to pass (a copy of) the voice to
the PC even in regular case. It's open source, after all ;)
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e entire menu bar. So even the 'gitmike'
theme is not really suited for adding a logo on the left hand side :/
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if you could keep us posted in some way
about your progress.
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"Privacy in residential applic
s
like the BCCH messages that can be used to update the fn.
> I hope that will be sufficent and try it out tomorrow. I am a bit
> afraid of trouble caused by the frame number skipping values with the
> upper incrementation logic.
I don't t
you used pkgconfig successfully with other libraries installed in
/usr/local/* before?
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"Privacy in residential applications is
needs to be sent with
the current frame number at the time being. Also, RACH retransmissions
are happening way too quick. See Packets 600...644 where there are 7
RACH requests all within soemething like 10ms. The BTS then allocates
7 channels rather than one, ...
So I think those lower-layer issue
; >Have you used pkgconfig successfully with other libraries installed in
> >/usr/local/* before?
>
> nothing installed before
Well, I suggest you make sure your PKGCONFIG_PATH includes the above
directory :)
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config and
datadir is the datadir for pkg-config when it was
installed.
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"Privacy in residen
irst, see above.
But anyway, there's good progress and I'm happy you're pushing forward
with this! I think a virtual L1 is a very useful foundation for all
kinds of automatic testing of the higher protocol layers, in a way that
everyone can execute, even without a real-world setup of BTSs an
ontinue to
build + work "bare iron" outside the context of nuttx, at the very least
as long as that work regarding Nuttx hasn't completed fully for quite
some time.
Looking forward to your progress.
Regards,
Harald
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l content there. This way it's
easier for "standard" users to not be confused with the (unfortunately
still) more experimental nuttx based system(s). Let me know if you
would want to help on that migration to a redmine sub-project and I'll
create that project
Regards,
Harald
to all
people. The price of the C1xx phones at the height of their
availability some 5 years ago was in the range of 10-20 USD, which is
something never achievable with any new board if not only due to the
economics of scale.
> Back in 2012 Harald Welte posted here saying that his company wa
. the interface to
the DSP.
And afterwards hope that you have something that supports either the
Fernvale, SIM800H, Linkit One, or other MTK 2G baseband chips out there.
Please let me know this was an accurate understanding.
Regards,
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to meeting you [again] in 2017,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
or their own project. Seems like it didn't happen
here :/
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"Privacy in residential appli
sync is one part,
and the re-sync to neighbor cells (as requirement for hand-over) is
another of those key parts.
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and receiving your
own 3G femtocell for free at
https://sysmocom.de/downloads/accelerate_3g5_cfp.pdf.
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delay are
acceptable for the complete authentication handshake. People are even
doing this over satellite back-haul.
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"Privacy in reside
dden PLMNs as stored on the SIM card. This makes sense, as
they are attributes related to the subscriber. But listing visible BTS
on the subscriber somehow wouldn't even make sense, IMHO.
Regards,
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im-prog actually existed for much longer time, it
is what we always used to program SIM Cards ever since 2009.
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"Privacy i
release CC?
It would be best if yo could include GSMTAP protocol traces of such
situations, so one can analyze what happens.
Also, you can compare the traces of working (no mncc?) and non-working
(mncc) cases.
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as can be seen at
http://git.osmocom.org/osmo-pcu/commit/?id=0a8fae8d141c2cfa4387ffe9b35402d5b8cc85cd
Please format your commit messages accordingly.
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==
g important probably) must be sacrificed.
No idea, maybe it's simply some temperature curve? I suppose reading
your "preferred firmware" source code should reveal more details what
this data is actually used for.
Doesn't it simply work if you copy the calibration data from a
that I fear is that I see very little activity outside of the
sysmocom team in gerrit in terms of review. I had the feeling this was
better while posting patches still on the mailing lists. I'm not sure
there is a causality.
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ething like that. That would at least
already resolve '1)' + '4)' from your list.
I've created https://osmocom.org/issues/2015 and
https://osmocom.org/issues/2016 to track this. We'll have to see who
can look into it, guess Holger and Neels are most familiar with the
setup.
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ose
from OsmoBTS, so one set of scheduling tables can be used in multiple
places.
> Thanks a lot for your support, I am glad you are taking the time to help me
> out :).
I'm happy if I can help your progress.
Regards,
Harald
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nt, ...
Yes, it's not nice to have that kind of possibillity for hidden
errors, but at least I'm happy with it, and there are not too many
people working on simtrace and related firmware anyway...
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free to disable 'make check' in the build script as an
interim workaround.
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"Privacy in residential applic
basic rx+tx functionality.
> Any work ongoing on this front?
I don't think there's much happening in OsmocomBB for many years, sadly.
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ll do anything useful on an actual pone [yet!], but I still think the
two steps above would be very useful to move ahead, and to unify the
patch submission/review/verification/approval/merge process in gerrit
with what we have established for the network-side projects like OsmoBTS
& co.
R
ed as soon as the hardware is validated.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desir
interest of a *user*. I
think the least concern of a user is how and where a manufacturer gets
his IMEI allocated. Yes, I agree there is something that can be done
regarding TAC allocation (like IEEE OUI / MAC address allocation or USB
vid/pid allocation). But that's not a topic for users.
Regard
e this (and continue any related discussion) on the other
mailing list.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential a
le?]
even check if allocated memory has been properly cleaned up during
destruction of the processing queue.
Let's see what Sylvain has to say about all of this, it's his creation
after all :)
Regards,
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lated work), specifically
commit 4de980b32c09dc0697f8f84302b646d48cdbef28
Author: Harald Welte <lafo...@gnumonks.org>
Date: Sun Jan 15 16:49:06 2017 +0100
WIP: Attempt to make linker scripts compatible with binutils 2.27
In binutils-2.27, one can no longer have linker sections with
overlapping VMA addresses. Let's
est this without too much effort.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a
board
power suplpy) in the sysmocom lab, if needed.
Regards,
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable
here any remaining reason to use
> Calypso devices as opposed to SDR PHY for OsmocomBB?
See above.
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tables and make use of them from OsmocomBB.
It's sad, but that's the state of affairs, even 7 years into the project.
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"Privacy i
in a way that's
completely transparent towards L23.
L1CTL is very simple and was crated very ad-hoc at the time, so be
warned if you think it's not very elegant: It isn't :/
For sure it's much more work than reading + processing the calibration
values, AFAICT.
Kind Regards,
Har
ll(msisdn) while then the
underlying C code would translate that to MNCC and use the existing
socket for that?
In the end, you are doing the work, and it's your call. I see some
benefits of going the msgb way, but then I don't understand the
implications in detail as you do, worki
ify that you actually loaded the re-built
file?
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"Privacy in residential appli
Dear Osmocom Community,
On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 01:23:47PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> == When, Who, Where ==
>
> I propose the following date for OsmoDevCon 2018:
> April 20 - April 23rd, 2018
>
> * Who: Active developers/contributors of Osmocom projects (as usual)
&g
introduction here, but just in case:
The company was founded by Holger Freyther and Harald Welte, two of the
leading OpenBSC and Osmocom developers from the very early days of the
project. Today we are responsible for by far the largest number of commits
to the Osmocom GSM/3G infrastructure related git
lds of a suitable
cross-compiler as well as pre-compiled omsocom-bb firmware:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:mnhauke:osmocom:nightly
This is not available in the official osmocom Debian builds. We're
always happy to merge related contributions, though.
Regards,
kind attention. Looking forward to meet with the
community at OsmoCon 2018 in October.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in
pared with the amount of resources required to run the 'mobile'
programs including the GSMTAP socket traffic etc. for sure neglectable?
Now of course '/bin/sleep' is a much simpler program to start, but the
overhead of the python "orchestration" doesn't change with the resource
f
bile's.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
st you simply rebase your chain of commits on current master and push
it into gerrit. That's what we have it for, and as indicated in
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/openbsc/2017-December/011523.html
gapk has been introduced to gerrit.
Regards,
Harald
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Hi Holger,
thanks for your status update. Looking forward to the related code.
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"Privacy in residential applications is
ime and
your decision how to spend it :)
> Thanks and let me know where to RTFM about adding things to the wiki
> properly if there is a doc/page about that.
I don't think there are any manuals about this, aside from the redmine
wiki syntax reference.
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this from scratch at some point)
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marke
At 115200 bps, there's
onyly 633
characters in that period.
Hoewver, I think we shouldn't focus too much on the constraints of the slow
serial link
of calypso phones here. In the worst case, our measurement reports will be
480ms old, so be it.
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s possible in roughly two
months from now,
Harald Welte
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable m
on RSL,
see https://gerrit.osmocom.org/#/c/7220/
* fix the wireshark dissector for SACCH, see
https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14105
* fix the wireshark RSL dissector for RSL (SACCH FILL, SACCH INFO MODIFY, CHAN
ACT)
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he BSIC ever changes, the MS knows that the neighbor has changed
(different neighbor on same ARFCN) and all higher-layer state must be
invalidated.
I'm quite sure pretty much all of this should be in the jolly/handover branch
of osmocom-bb.git
Regards,
Harald
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Osmocom developers in April 2019.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing o
dy way too late with and overloaded, I will not
be able to personally mentor a GSoC student.
So I'm happy to help with formailtiies, etc. - but that's about it, sorry.
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"Pr
ike below.
You will have to implement support for UCS-2 character set based SMS to
OsmocomBB, I think
nobody has implemented this so far.
We are very much looking forward to receiving and merging any related patches!
Thanks,
Harald
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e know what you'd
need/want and I'll try to make sure you get it.
Regards,
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"Privacy in residential applications is a
improving open/free cellular technology.
Best Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
aid this, please feel free to share your points of view in a
neutral way - but don't be judgemental and/or attack other people just
because they are doing something that's not according to your taste,
or which you think is inferior.
To put it in the words of Rosa Luxemburg[1]:
"Fre
ve.
The logical channel must be previously activated by the BSC using RSL
CHAn ACT with type == handover.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applica
th freq+TDMA sync on the current cell, or on a new cell.
> and (de)activating its logical channels.
bitmask of L1 SAPI in DM_EST_REQ and new DM_MOD_REQ.
> - We need to implement the ability to schedule tasks at the given
>TDMA frame number in trxcon, so it would be possible to chang
Hi!
thanks for sharing the pictures.
Can you please submit your patches / changes to OsmocomBB, so we
can officially support this module from OsmcoomBB?
Regards,
Harald
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,
L1CTL_FT_BAND_1900,
L1CTL_FT_CIPH_A51,
L1CTL_FT_CIPH_A52,
L1CTL_FT_CIPH_A53,
};
---
I won't go "full steam ahead" on this, but will try to get it
implemented within the next week or so.
Regards,
Harald
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-related
command was added in Nvoember 2009 in commit
23975e718fd456ff8be7effbb915903f1bc173be.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applic
we would
appreciate your patches and other contributions to the code at least as
much as pictures of what you are doing :)
Regards,
Harald
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"Priva
and we'll send you an envenlope, likely
mid next week due to the upcoming extended whitsunday weekend.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applica
iki page.
So please, anyone interested in making an Osmocom village happen one way
or another, step up [and continue this discussion on the
camp2019-vill...@lists.osmocom.org mailing list, without crossposting
everywhere else :)
Regards,
Harald
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the minimum of what's required for handover in a virtual environment?
Regards,
Harald
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rity City
* Osmocom Village has no separate tent/infrastructure but people will
hang out at the singularity city hackcenter.
Regards,
Harald
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Please enter your name at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCon2020#Requested
in case you would like to attend. Registering early allows proper
planning. Thanks!
Looking forward to meeting old and new Osmocom developers in April 2020.
Regards,
Harald
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.
Thanks for your input.
Once the prototype is validated, we plan to make the boards (bundled with
GTM900B)
available in the sysmocom webshop.
Regards,
Harald
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3/src/misc/geo.c
from your source tree? What does 'git status' tell you?
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..@lists.osmocom.org.
Regards,
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
to involve physical relocation between racks.
Happy hacking!
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing o
on Sunday morning
during the downtime: There are public mirrors available on github.
Regards,
Harald
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desi
and osmo-bts.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
ebody with at least some prior exposure to online
events (like the c3voc).
I'm using https://osmocom.org/issues/4928 to collect a tentative list
of topics. Feel free to add your ideas there, as well as any comment/
feedback you may have.
Regards,
Harald
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ng forward to meeting you on Friday.
Best regards,
Harald
[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
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v-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall
Looking forward to meeting you on Friday.
Best regards,
Harald
[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
chedule or structure.
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
/OsmoDevCall
Looking forward to meeting you on Friday.
Best regards,
Harald
[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
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the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
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"Privacy
[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.
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