Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-12-05 Thread Micha Bayer
] On Behalf Of Jari Häkkinen > Sent: 05 December 2007 14:06 > To: BASE dev > Subject: Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2 > > > Finally I read about KuteBase who have reworked the data upload > workflow > > to BASE and built a batchuploader: >

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-12-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
> Finally I read about KuteBase who have reworked the data upload workflow > to BASE and built a batchuploader: > > http://vortex.cs.wayne.edu/taxonomy/term/69 It is always nice to see improvements made to BASE and the plug-in looks promising. The KUTE plug-in is claimed to work with BASE 2.0.x

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-12-05 Thread Helen Parkinson
Hi just a pointer to a tool that makes a MAGETAB or tab2mage template for you which might be of interest. It's used by our submitters but you can download the template and use it locally. There's still a lot of manual filling in the sheet, but it seems to be used successfully by a lot of peopl

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Micha Bayer
Hi Philippe, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:basedb-devel- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippe > Sent: 13 November 2007 11:12 > To: BASE dev > Cc: Iain Milne > Subject: Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2 &g

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Philippe
Hi Micha, everyone I can somewhat relate to your experience that data entry from users point of view. It might be an issue as most biologists feel it is too time consuming. I think the idea of having a wizard helping create a tab2mage file would help. Whithin NuGO consortium, the idea also cam

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Philippe
Hi Micha, Everyone I can somewhat relate to your experience that data entry from users point of view. It is an issue as most biologists feel it is too time consuming. I think the idea of having a wizard helping create a tab2mage file would help. Whithin NuGO consortium, the idea also came up du

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Bob MacCallum
Hi Kjell, I think bulk loading just the raw data saves only around 30% of the clicking. The samples, extracts and labeled extracts, sample annotations and protocols are also a big deal (and are or soon will be handled by the tab2mage importer). However, as you point out, making a tab2mage spread

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Kjell Petersen
Hi Micha and others, Just a quick reply for now: First off, your experience with reluctant users seems very familiar to our experiences. The hard bit is to convince the users about the advantages before they need them: backup, good structured documentation about their experiments, easy export

[basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Bob MacCallum
Hi all, I get the feeling that BASE is ideally suited to the microarray facility technician. Each individual hyb/raw data set is relatively simple and not too tedious to load on its own just after scanning. (This is probably less true for samples and extracts, since these are made further from

[basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Micha Bayer
Hi, I gave a BASE2 talk and demo the other week at a sister institute of ours where they are considering introducing BASE2, and the feedback we got from users there -- and from users at our own institute -- was quite an insight into how things look from the user's perspective. Basically, the upsh