Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-12-05 Thread Micha Bayer
] On Behalf Of Jari Häkkinen > Sent: 05 December 2007 14:06 > To: BASE dev > Subject: Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2 > > > Finally I read about KuteBase who have reworked the data upload > workflow > > to BASE and built a batchuploader: >

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-12-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
> Finally I read about KuteBase who have reworked the data upload workflow > to BASE and built a batchuploader: > > http://vortex.cs.wayne.edu/taxonomy/term/69 It is always nice to see improvements made to BASE and the plug-in looks promising. The KUTE plug-in is claimed to work with BASE 2.0.x

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-12-05 Thread Helen Parkinson
Hi just a pointer to a tool that makes a MAGETAB or tab2mage template for you which might be of interest. It's used by our submitters but you can download the template and use it locally. There's still a lot of manual filling in the sheet, but it seems to be used successfully by a lot of peopl

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Micha Bayer
Hi Philippe, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:basedb-devel- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippe > Sent: 13 November 2007 11:12 > To: BASE dev > Cc: Iain Milne > Subject: Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2 &g

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Philippe
Hi Micha, everyone I can somewhat relate to your experience that data entry from users point of view. It might be an issue as most biologists feel it is too time consuming. I think the idea of having a wizard helping create a tab2mage file would help. Whithin NuGO consortium, the idea also cam

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Philippe
Hi Micha, Everyone I can somewhat relate to your experience that data entry from users point of view. It is an issue as most biologists feel it is too time consuming. I think the idea of having a wizard helping create a tab2mage file would help. Whithin NuGO consortium, the idea also came up du

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Bob MacCallum
Hi Kjell, I think bulk loading just the raw data saves only around 30% of the clicking. The samples, extracts and labeled extracts, sample annotations and protocols are also a big deal (and are or soon will be handled by the tab2mage importer). However, as you point out, making a tab2mage spread

Re: [basedb-devel] some user feedback on data input into BASE2

2007-11-12 Thread Kjell Petersen
Hi Micha and others, Just a quick reply for now: First off, your experience with reluctant users seems very familiar to our experiences. The hard bit is to convince the users about the advantages before they need them: backup, good structured documentation about their experiments, easy export