Re: Live Preview On BBedit

[Madelyn Bingham]

Thank you! That worked!

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 10:36:30 AM UTC-7, buckyjunior wrote:
>
> BBEdit’s Live Preview will render HTML documents with various options. 
> Mostly from memory:
>
> With an HTML type file open, from the menu, select Markup -> Preview in 
> BBEdit. Or, with the HTML tools palette >Window -> Palettes -> HTML Tools 
> Palette, select Preview in BBEdit.
>
> In the Preview window, you can also select pre-defined templates or CSS 
> files to wrap around the content of the HTML file.
>
> The BBEdit Manual is a wonderful document included with the program found 
> in the Help menu. Search for “Previewing Pages.” I found it in Chapter 11, 
> page 238 in my version 11.6.8 of BBEdit.
>
> That said, Live Preview renders HTML elements in my experience. It won’t 
> process PHP and I don’t know about other languages. There are more 
> experienced users who can speak about other languages. In order to process 
> programming, a file needs to be saved and run through a browser like Safari.
>
> Best.
>
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Madelyn Bingham  > wrote:
>
> I have searched various instructional videos on how to use BBEdit, but I 
> haven't found much. I haven't been able to figure out how to "Live Preview" 
> anything. It shows that you can do it, but I can't figure out how. Could 
> someone tell/show me how? 
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Charlie Garrison]

On 28 Nov 2017, at 6:00, Steve deRosier wrote:


* Command-line starting - I can ssh into my Linux development machine,
type "bbedit filename.c" and though some shell script magic it can ssh
back to my Mac and open the file remotely in BBEdit. Same deal with
using it as my CSCOPE_EDITOR.


Have you tried `rbbedit`?

- https://github.com/cngarrison/rbbedit

It’s a formalised version of “through some shell script magic it can 
ssh back to my Mac”, but has additional ‘copy methods’ such as scp 
and rsync.



* Network - Editing works the same no matter if it's a local file, a
file over NFS or SFTP.


Or a remote volume mounted using ExpanDrive, which rbbedit also 
supports.  ;-)


-cng

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 1:51, Madelyn Bingham  wrote:
> 
> Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it special or set it 
> apart?

Applescript support, integration with the system, as Christopher described.

As far as "text editing" proper is concerned, even TextEdit covers most of the 
basic needs of a writer.

BBEdit's core functions cover *anything* a coder in any language needs.
BBEdit also has a lot of HTML editing related functions.

The only "serious" editing thing I don't do in BBEdit is validate and correct 
xml files. The day BBEdit offers a solution similar to Emacs' nxml mode I'll 
quit using Emacs for that (maybe it's there but I've not found it).

> What are some tips and tricks to using this code editor?

1) Check the (excellent) manual for complex tasks that you'd like to accomplish.
2) Ask here.



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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Christopher Stone]

On 11/27/2017, at 10:51, Madelyn Bingham > wrote:
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors?


Hey Madelyn,

There are a number of good text editors available for the Mac, and some have 
various features or eye candy that BBEdit doesn't.

But...

No other text editor on the Mac has the amount of focussed power BBEdit does.

All of the built-in text processing and development tools are extremely 
powerful and relatively easy to use.

Text Factories allow laymen to do sophisticated text processing.

Text Filters allow any language runnable from the shell to interact with 
documents.

Shell worksheets facilitate shell script development and various shell-related 
tasks.

BBEdit is one of the most AppleScriptable apps on the planet, so users can 
automate and systematize and customize and get work done in various ways other 
editors can't match.

I've used it since somewhere around 1992.

I try out anything that looks interesting - Brackets, Atom, MacVim, Sublime 
Text, Textastic, TextMate, UltraEdit...

But so far I've always come back to BBEdit.

It runs 24/7 on my system.

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Re: BBEdit as EDITOR

[Matthew Montgomery]

Thanks Sam!

That did it. Switching to export EDITOR="bbedit --wait --resume $@" has it 
working as I'd want.

Cheers,

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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Sam Hathaway  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this’ll be helpful for you, but I have a slightly different 
> EDITOR setup and can’t replicate your issue. I have EDITOR set to 
> /Users/sam/install/bin/bbedit-wait, and bbedit-wait contains:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> 
> 
> exec /usr/local/bin/bbedit --wait --resume "$@"
> I did this because some programs have issues with EDITOR values that contain 
> shell metacharacters, but maybe it’d solve your problem too?
> 
> Hope this helps.
> -sam
> 
> On 27 Nov 2017, at 12:12, Matthew Montgomery wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have BBEdit setup as my terminal editor via... export EDITOR="bbedit --wait 
> --resume"
> 
> While using git from the command line, this all works very well for editing 
> the COMMIT_EDITMSG file when BBEdit is already running. If I issue a "git 
> commit" when BBEdit is not running, it is launched as expected but it seems 
> that the bbedit command line tool exits after loading the specified file not 
> upon closing the file.
> 
> Is there some other way to make this work when launching BBEdit? Perhaps 
> chain a separate command that only uses the launch option?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: BBEdit as EDITOR

[Matthew Montgomery]

Oh I take that back. My testing methodology was flawed. :-)

I am still seeing the command line tool exit without waiting when BBEdit hasn't 
already been launched. I will keep trying things and post again if I find a 
working solution.

Thanks.

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> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Matthew Montgomery  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Sam!
> 
> That did it. Switching to export EDITOR="bbedit --wait --resume $@" has it 
> working as I'd want.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Matthew
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Sam Hathaway  wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure if this’ll be helpful for you, but I have a slightly different 
>> EDITOR setup and can’t replicate your issue. I have EDITOR set to 
>> /Users/sam/install/bin/bbedit-wait, and bbedit-wait contains:
>> 
>> #!/bin/sh
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> exec /usr/local/bin/bbedit --wait --resume "$@"
>> I did this because some programs have issues with EDITOR values that contain 
>> shell metacharacters, but maybe it’d solve your problem too?
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> -sam
>> 
>> On 27 Nov 2017, at 12:12, Matthew Montgomery wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have BBEdit setup as my terminal editor via... export EDITOR="bbedit 
>> --wait --resume"
>> 
>> While using git from the command line, this all works very well for editing 
>> the COMMIT_EDITMSG file when BBEdit is already running. If I issue a "git 
>> commit" when BBEdit is not running, it is launched as expected but it seems 
>> that the bbedit command line tool exits after loading the specified file not 
>> upon closing the file.
>> 
>> Is there some other way to make this work when launching BBEdit? Perhaps 
>> chain a separate command that only uses the launch option?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Steve deRosier]

Throwing my thoughts in the ring, I use BBEdit extensively for nearly
everything I do. My primary activities are in the embedded programming
domain, and I use it heavily in Linux kernel driver programming. I
regard the Mac and BBEdit as a superior platform (for me) for Linux
kernel development than Linux itself; I know that would be considered
blasphemy by some of the community, but I care about effectiveness and
it works for me. Also, I do a fair amount of pure bare-metal coding
with it.  I do Python test frameworks for my work. And some standard
LAMP stack coding. And then there's documentation in Markdown and
reStructuredText.

In short, BBEdit is my swiss-army-knife for getting things done. It's
language and style agnostic. It's got a thin footprint. I can open
100s of files in dozens of document windows. It has a project
management structure that just works but doesn't give my computer fits
(I don't know if it is still an issue, but 10 years ago, trying to
open the Linux kernel as a project in Eclipse ment my computer would
grind for 40 minutes before I could touch a line of code). And it
works the way I do - centralized on my Mac but attached and working
with multiple computers and VMs.

Features I use most:
* Powerful searching - multiple files, projects, single file. Very
flexible to tell it what to search and in what files. And it remembers
your history.
* Command-line starting - I can ssh into my Linux development machine,
type "bbedit filename.c" and though some shell script magic it can ssh
back to my Mac and open the file remotely in BBEdit. Same deal with
using it as my CSCOPE_EDITOR.
* Projects
* Network - Editing works the same no matter if it's a local file, a
file over NFS or SFTP.
* Languages - A typical project for me includes C, C++, Python,
Makefiles, CMake, Bash or Ash scripts, ASM, Markdown, HTML, CSS, and
PHP. BBEdit lets me work seamlessly with all of it.
* And it's good at the small stuff - I use it often for processing log
files, or even silly things like reformatting emails with inserting
quote marks '> ' using the "Prefix/Suffix Lines..." feature in the
Text menu. It's easier than using awk/sed.

Use it or don't use it, doesn't matter to me. I will use it because
it's the best tool for the job.



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:34 AM, François Schiettecatte
 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I code for a living and have been using BBEdit pretty much since it was ‘a 
> thing’, it runs on Macs only but all the work I do is on Linux. Everyone once 
> in a while I take a look around to see what else there is, mostly as an 
> insurance policy (the 90’s were a dark time for Macintosh), but for what I do 
> there is nothing that comes even close, and I use probably 60%-70% of the 
> features it offers. If I was going to put my finger on one feature it would 
> be Projects, they allow me to manage multiple code bases very easily 
> (combined line count is closing in on 7 digits).
>
> Ultimately it comes down to what you are looking for. If you want to edit a 
> few files there are a myriad of choices out there. If you make your living 
> coding then BBEdit is great and time put into learning it is well rewarded in 
> the long run.
>
> François
>
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
>> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I 
>> could just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which 
>> seem to be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that 
>> make it special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this 
>> code editor?
>>
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[François Schiettecatte]

Hi

I code for a living and have been using BBEdit pretty much since it was ‘a 
thing’, it runs on Macs only but all the work I do is on Linux. Everyone once 
in a while I take a look around to see what else there is, mostly as an 
insurance policy (the 90’s were a dark time for Macintosh), but for what I do 
there is nothing that comes even close, and I use probably 60%-70% of the 
features it offers. If I was going to put my finger on one feature it would be 
Projects, they allow me to manage multiple code bases very easily (combined 
line count is closing in on 7 digits).

Ultimately it comes down to what you are looking for. If you want to edit a few 
files there are a myriad of choices out there. If you make your living coding 
then BBEdit is great and time put into learning it is well rewarded in the long 
run.

François

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I could 
> just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which seem to 
> be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it 
> special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this code 
> editor?
> 
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Kyle DeMilo]

If I could throw my hat in the ring, I don't code — and I'm probably
using BBEdit all wrong, but I use it with the Project view to store text
files with all kinds of notes on my job, as well as notes for each ticket I
have to deal with at my 9-to-5.

Could I do it with a cheaper solution? Probably, but BBEdit allows me to do
it all with a minimum of chrome, fuss, and formatting. For me, that's worth
every penny.

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Bucky Junior]

Whew! This is bound to bring out the evangelists.

First, BBEdit is Mac OS only. Notepad++is Windows only and Brackets appears to 
be platform agnostic. I’ve not tried either of those.

BBEdit is, to say the least, powerful. I’m not a heavy weight user and only use 
a fraction of what the program is capable of doing. Without making lists here, 
you can view the seven chapter product tour starting at 
>. I see a link 
to Testimonials on that page too.

I only write and maintain a few web sites and _might_ be able to do my work 
with a lesser product but having all the options are worth it to me. My 
daughter uses a much more expensive Adobe product (more of a WYSIWYG interface) 
but I prefer cleaner coding that I get with BBEdit.

Tips and tricks? Read the manual and try things out. Read the product tour and 
pick out things that appeal to your method of working. Pick out things that 
will solve problems for you. Read the manual and try things out. Continue 
monitoring this group because there are some wonderful helpful people here.
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I could 
> just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which seem to 
> be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it 
> special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this code 
> editor?
> 
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Re: Live Preview On BBedit

[Bucky Junior]

BBEdit’s Live Preview will render HTML documents with various options. Mostly 
from memory:

With an HTML type file open, from the menu, select Markup -> Preview in BBEdit. 
Or, with the HTML tools palette >Window -> Palettes -> HTML Tools Palette, 
select Preview in BBEdit.

In the Preview window, you can also select pre-defined templates or CSS files 
to wrap around the content of the HTML file.

The BBEdit Manual is a wonderful document included with the program found in 
the Help menu. Search for “Previewing Pages.” I found it in Chapter 11, page 
238 in my version 11.6.8 of BBEdit.

That said, Live Preview renders HTML elements in my experience. It won’t 
process PHP and I don’t know about other languages. There are more experienced 
users who can speak about other languages. In order to process programming, a 
file needs to be saved and run through a browser like Safari.

Best.

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
> wrote:
> 
> I have searched various instructional videos on how to use BBEdit, but I 
> haven't found much. I haven't been able to figure out how to "Live Preview" 
> anything. It shows that you can do it, but I can't figure out how. Could 
> someone tell/show me how? 
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BBEdit as EDITOR

[Matthew Montgomery]

Hi all,

I have BBEdit setup as my terminal editor via... export EDITOR="bbedit --wait 
--resume"

While using git from the command line, this all works very well for editing the 
COMMIT_EDITMSG file when BBEdit is already running. If I issue a "git commit" 
when BBEdit is not running, it is launched as expected but it seems that the 
bbedit command line tool exits after loading the specified file not upon 
closing the file.

Is there some other way to make this work when launching BBEdit? Perhaps chain 
a separate command that only uses the launch option?

Thanks!

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Live Preview On BBedit

[Madelyn Bingham]

I have searched various instructional videos on how to use BBEdit, but I 
haven't found much. I haven't been able to figure out how to "Live Preview" 
anything. It shows that you can do it, but I can't figure out how. Could 
someone tell/show me how? 

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[ANN] BBEdit 12.0.2 (400045) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We're working on an update to BBEdit 12.0 to address a few 
recently reported issues.


Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix 
bugs and address areas of improvement based on what our 
customers have reported. However, since the software is at this 
point not fully tested, there _may_ be bugs and regressions.


If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the 
public release versions is your best course of action. Nobody 
will be offended if you choose to do so; you're under no 
obligation to install and use anything but a public release. :-)


Following is a summary of changes since the most recent 
pre-release build. Complete change notes for all of the 
pre-release builds in this cycle are available here: .


The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and 
fixes, and are annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So 
if you recognize a number corresponding to a support case that 
was opened for you, you can now verify that it's been fixed 
correctly. Please take the time to review the changes before 
using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.


One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, 
PLEASE DO NOT REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking 
about whether others have seen the same problem. Instead, please 
send a bug report to  and we will deal 
with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.




version 12.0.2 (400045) (2017-11-27)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   [349106] Fixed crash which would occur when trying to use the
Placeholders command on a scratchpad document.

*   Fixed a bug in which the SFTP client would report a successful
"change working directory" operation even if the desired
directory did not exist. Usually this would cause problems when
deploying a site and adding directories that were not 
present the

remote server.

*   [349181] Fixed bug in which a -1704 error would be reported when
choosing a directory from the title bar menu for a document that
had been opened via the built-in FTP/SFTP support.

*   Fixed bug in which glyphs for the Return or Enter keys were not
displayed in the Menus & Shortcuts preferences and other
locations.

*   [349312] Fixed bug in which RCS keyword filtering during
comparison would ignore only the first keyword on the line.

==end==

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



Enjoy,

Rich Siegel
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc. 

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