Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread F. Alfredo Rego
Thanks, Lee, but that’s not a “compact/terse list”. Nonetheless, following your 
hint, I decided to extract the espresso (using BBEdit as my espresso machine, 
of course) and here it is. 

To suit your taste(s), you can add your preferred amount of textured milk to 
produce a macchiato, a cappuccino, a latte, or a venti. I hope it’s useful to 
everyone.

Enjoy.

Alfredo

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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread Lee Hinde
Look for Expert Preferences in BBEdit Help (under the Help Menu).

> On Mar 10, 2018, at 9:24 AM, F. Alfredo Rego  wrote:
> 
> Very Nice, Patrick.
> 
> Is there a compact/terse list of all of these great “accessory prefs” 
> somewhere?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alfredo
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
>> 
>> On 3/9/18 at 6:11 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote:
>> 
 defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus 
 -bool YES
>>> 
>>> Patrick, thank you. Now I have to struggle with whether I actually like 
>>> this or not. Because the Project sidebar is instant-activation, by which I 
>>> mean, it opens the file as soon as it's highlighted. So if I want to arrow 
>>> down 10 files to open the 10th, I wind up opening 1–10. On first 
>>> experiment, I opened 30 files in 1.5 seconds, unintentionally. ("This is 
>>> why it's not enabled by default behavior", Patrick thinks to himself.)
>>> 
>>> However, playing with this in the Currently open documents pane, that I've 
>>> liked a lot.
>> 
>> Apropos of when BBEdit opens files, there is an accessory pref as follows:
>> 
>> ===
>> Projects
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> * Project windows will ordinarily open an item in the file list for
>>   editing when you click on it and the editing view is visible. To
>>   require a double-click:
>> 
>>   [ please issue the following Terminal command ]
>> 
>>   defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsOpenItemsOnSingleClick -bool NO
>> 
>> ===
>> 
>> so you may wish to apply it as well. :-)
>> 
>> 
 Control-Tab
 Control-Shift-Tab
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Chris! This one is completely new to me.
>>> 
>> 
>> FWIW you can use these key shortcuts to switch between panes within a window 
>> in (nearly) every Mac application.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Patrick Woolsey
>> ==
>> Bare Bones Software, Inc. 

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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread F. Alfredo Rego
Very Nice, Patrick.

Is there a compact/terse list of all of these great “accessory prefs” somewhere?

Thanks.

Alfredo

> On Mar 10, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
> 
> On 3/9/18 at 6:11 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote:
> 
>>> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus 
>>> -bool YES
>> 
>> Patrick, thank you. Now I have to struggle with whether I actually like this 
>> or not. Because the Project sidebar is instant-activation, by which I mean, 
>> it opens the file as soon as it's highlighted. So if I want to arrow down 10 
>> files to open the 10th, I wind up opening 1–10. On first experiment, I 
>> opened 30 files in 1.5 seconds, unintentionally. ("This is why it's not 
>> enabled by default behavior", Patrick thinks to himself.)
>> 
>> However, playing with this in the Currently open documents pane, that I've 
>> liked a lot.
> 
> Apropos of when BBEdit opens files, there is an accessory pref as follows:
> 
> ===
> Projects
> 
>  [...]
> 
>  * Project windows will ordinarily open an item in the file list for
>editing when you click on it and the editing view is visible. To
>require a double-click:
> 
>[ please issue the following Terminal command ]
> 
>defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsOpenItemsOnSingleClick -bool NO
> 
> ===
> 
> so you may wish to apply it as well. :-)
> 
> 
>>> Control-Tab
>>> Control-Shift-Tab
>> 
>> Thank you, Chris! This one is completely new to me.
>> 
> 
> FWIW you can use these key shortcuts to switch between panes within a window 
> in (nearly) every Mac application.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Patrick Woolsey
> ==
> Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
> 
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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread Patrick Woolsey

On 3/9/18 at 6:11 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote:


defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus -bool 
YES


Patrick, thank you. Now I have to struggle with whether I 
actually like this or not. Because the Project sidebar is 
instant-activation, by which I mean, it opens the file as soon 
as it's highlighted. So if I want to arrow down 10 files to 
open the 10th, I wind up opening 1–10. On first experiment, I 
opened 30 files in 1.5 seconds, unintentionally. ("This is why 
it's not enabled by default behavior", Patrick thinks to himself.)


However, playing with this in the Currently open documents 
pane, that I've liked a lot.


Apropos of when BBEdit opens files, there is an accessory pref 
as follows:


===
Projects

  [...]

  * Project windows will ordinarily open an item in the file 
list for
editing when you click on it and the editing view is 
visible. To

require a double-click:

[ please issue the following Terminal command ]

defaults write com.barebones.bbedit 
ProjectsOpenItemsOnSingleClick -bool NO


===

so you may wish to apply it as well. :-)



Control-Tab
Control-Shift-Tab


Thank you, Chris! This one is completely new to me.



FWIW you can use these key shortcuts to switch between panes 
within a window in (nearly) every Mac application.



Regards,

 Patrick Woolsey
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc. 

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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread F. Alfredo Rego
Rich,

Nice, BUT the file opens in a new window. How about just “activating” it within 
the Project’s “Currently Open Documents”?

I appreciate discovering all of these no-so-obvious jewels.

Thanks.

Alfredo

> On Mar 10, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> 
> On 3/6/18 at 5:33 PM, f.alfredor...@gmail.com (F. Alfredo Rego) wrote:
> 
>> Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having 
>> to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)?
> 
> If you have a project open, try "Open File by Name" and type the first few 
> characters of the file name. You can drive the entire process from the 
> keyboard.
> 
> R.
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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread Rich Siegel

On 3/6/18 at 5:33 PM, f.alfredor...@gmail.com (F. Alfredo Rego) wrote:

Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list 
WITHOUT having to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands 
off the keyboard)?


If you have a project open, try "Open File by Name" and type the 
first few characters of the file name. You can drive the entire 
process from the keyboard.


R.
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sedate me.


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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-10 Thread Brian Christiansen
> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus 
-bool YES

Patrick, thank you. Now I have to struggle with whether I actually like 
this or not. Because the Project sidebar is instant-activation, by which I 
mean, it opens the file as soon as it's highlighted. So if I want to arrow 
down 10 files to open the 10th, I wind up opening 1–10. On first 
experiment, I opened 30 files in 1.5 seconds, unintentionally. ("This is 
why it's not enabled by default behavior", Patrick thinks to himself.)

However, playing with this in the Currently open documents pane, that I've 
liked a lot.

> CMD + OPT + Left or Right Arrow Key

David! How are you. Do you write your books in BBEdit? Thanks for the note. 
I had this set to Opt+Cmd+ [ & ] -- mimicking the browser shortcut to 
switch between open tabs. I just switched it to use the arrow keys after 
realizing that combo is not a text control combo like opt+right-arrow or 
cmd+right-arrow. I'll try this for a bit and see how it feels. Thanks!

> Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT 
having to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)? We 
want to save EVERY calorie that we can. 

Yes, sir, Alfredo! Ever since I read this one StackOverflow post about Vim 
years ago, I've been on a quest to use BBEdit in a similar fashion… when 
I'm in code, I want to pretend the mouse does not exist (or in my case, 
trackpad.)

> Control-Tab
> Control-Shift-Tab

Thank you, Chris! This one is completely new to me.

I appreciate everyone's input.

Best,
~brian
@briandigital

On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:34:45 PM UTC-5, Alfredo wrote:
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> These two shortcuts work great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alfredo 
>
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Stone  > wrote:
>
> On 03/06/2018, at 16:33, F. Alfredo Rego  > wrote:
>
> Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT 
> having to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)?
>
> --
>
> Hey Alfredo,
>
> Control-Tab
>
> Control-Shift-Tab
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Chris
>
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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-07 Thread F. Alfredo Rego
Hey Chris,

These two shortcuts work great.

Thanks!

Alfredo 

> On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Stone  
> wrote:
> 
> On 03/06/2018, at 16:33, F. Alfredo Rego  > wrote:
>> Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having 
>> to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)?
> 
> 
> Hey Alfredo,
> 
> Control-Tab
> 
> Control-Shift-Tab
> 
> --
> Best Regards,
> Chris
> 
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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-07 Thread Christopher Stone
On 03/06/2018, at 16:33, F. Alfredo Rego > wrote:
> Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having 
> to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)?


Hey Alfredo,

Control-Tab

Control-Shift-Tab

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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-07 Thread DavidWeinberger
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but CMD + OPT + Left or 
Right Arrow Key moves around the Currently Open Documents pane in the 
Projects list. No need to shift focus to it first. 

Note that if you use that keyboard shortcut, the list of projects in the 
top pane does not update to highlight the file currently in the editor, but 
the name in the Currently Open Docs pane does. I'd missed that until I 
asked Support about it. D'oh!

- David W. 

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 6:08:18 PM UTC-5, Brian Christiansen wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> After searching the user manual (love that thing) and this group, I can't 
> find anything on getting around within the sidebar without taking my hands 
> off the keyboard. 
>
> What I am picturing is,
>
> 1. Key combo to shift focus to the sidebar
> 2. Keys to move through the hierarchy, in the manner of navigating the 
> Finder from the keyboard.
> 3. Perhaps CMD-O to open a file
> 4. Key combo to shift focus back to the editor pane.
>
> Am I just missing it? I've wanted to do this for years, and have never 
> gotten around to asking. The majority of my work is within Projects, so for 
> me the Sidebar is there 95% of the time.
>
> Thank you,
> ~brian
>

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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-06 Thread F. Alfredo Rego
Thanks, Patrick for the useful cribbing.

Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having to 
click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)?

We want to save EVERY calorie that we can.

Alfredo

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
> 
> There is an expert pref which you can set to allow the file list to gain 
> keyboard focus. Cribbing from the "Expert Preferences" page of the Help book:
> 
> 
> Projects
> 
>  * In project windows, the file list does not accept keyboard focus by
>default, unless the editing view is hidden. You can modify this so
>that the file list gets the focus whenever you click on it:
> 
>[ by issuing the following Terminal command on a single line ]
> 
>defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus 
> -bool YES
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Patrick Woolsey
> ==
> Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
> 
> 
> On 3/5/18 at 6:07 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> After searching the user manual (love that thing) and this group, I can't 
>> find anything on getting around within the sidebar without taking my hands 
>> off the keyboard.
>> What I am picturing is,
>> 
>> 1. Key combo to shift focus to the sidebar
>> 2. Keys to move through the hierarchy, in the manner of navigating the 
>> Finder from the keyboard.
>> 3. Perhaps CMD-O to open a file
>> 4. Key combo to shift focus back to the editor pane.
>> 
>> Am I just missing it? I've wanted to do this for years, and have never 
>> gotten around to asking. The majority of my work is within Projects, so for 
>> me the Sidebar is there 95% of the time.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> ~brian
>> 
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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-06 Thread Patrick Woolsey
There is an expert pref which you can set to allow the file list 
to gain keyboard focus. Cribbing from the "Expert Preferences" 
page of the Help book:



Projects

  * In project windows, the file list does not accept keyboard 
focus by
default, unless the editing view is hidden. You can modify 
this so

that the file list gets the focus whenever you click on it:

[ by issuing the following Terminal command on a single 
line ]


defaults write com.barebones.bbedit 
ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus -bool YES





Regards,

 Patrick Woolsey
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc. 


On 3/5/18 at 6:07 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote:


Hello,

After searching the user manual (love that thing) and this 
group, I can't find anything on getting around within the 
sidebar without taking my hands off the keyboard.

What I am picturing is,

1. Key combo to shift focus to the sidebar
2. Keys to move through the hierarchy, in the manner of 
navigating the Finder from the keyboard.

3. Perhaps CMD-O to open a file
4. Key combo to shift focus back to the editor pane.

Am I just missing it? I've wanted to do this for years, and 
have never gotten around to asking. The majority of my work is 
within Projects, so for me the Sidebar is there 95% of the time.


Thank you,
~brian



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Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

2018-03-05 Thread F. Alfredo Rego
Hello Brian,

I use Keyboard Maestro with great success for these kinds of challenges.

Enjoy!

Alfredo

> On Mar 5, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Brian Christiansen  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> After searching the user manual (love that thing) and this group, I can't 
> find anything on getting around within the sidebar without taking my hands 
> off the keyboard. 
> 
> What I am picturing is,
> 
> 1. Key combo to shift focus to the sidebar
> 2. Keys to move through the hierarchy, in the manner of navigating the Finder 
> from the keyboard.
> 3. Perhaps CMD-O to open a file
> 4. Key combo to shift focus back to the editor pane.
> 
> Am I just missing it? I've wanted to do this for years, and have never gotten 
> around to asking. The majority of my work is within Projects, so for me the 
> Sidebar is there 95% of the time.
> 
> Thank you,
> ~brian
> 
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