Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-25 Thread Roger Pye
Allan Balliett wrote: Is it only oil that the US is after or is it power over all decisions made by anyone in all facets of life? Look up your own pipe, James. Without enthusiastic allies like Australia and the UK, even Geo W. would be a little more cautious about making the world safe

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-25 Thread COYOTEHILLFARM
: Perfect Orchard-Calcium Allan Balliett wrote: Is it only oil that the US is after or is it power over all decisions made by anyone in all facets of life? Look up your own pipe, James. Without enthusiastic allies like Australia and the UK, even Geo W. would be a little more

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-24 Thread James Hedley
Dear Roger, You state, 500, 501 and the other preparations are miracles-in-being whose greatness, despite the passage of time, has in no way been fully realised. Similarly we have hardly explored the energies available to us naturally (and I don't mean fossil fuels). The opportunity to do so

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-23 Thread Roger Pye
Lloyd Charles wrote: But I do know that 3.8 grams of BD501 mixed with 34 litres of fresh water and potentised, and sprayed on one hectare of degraded farmland in the evening when the land is drawing its nutrients and energies back into itself, will unlock and catalyse natural minerals and

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-22 Thread Roger Pye
Allan Balliett wrote: . . . . Pfeiffer, in practice, however, was open to the use of chemical fertilizers to get the soil productive enough to produce cover crops that could have benefit if once turned into the soil. (A person starting a bd project on an abused piece of ground - - as almost

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-22 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium Allan Balliett wrote: . . . . Pfeiffer, in practice, however, was open to the use of chemical fertilizers to get the soil

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-22 Thread Allan Balliett
Lloyd said: Roger, dont you think you have got a bit carried away with this? Lloyd , I assume that Roger was responding to my more generalized statement about the use of artificial fertilizers to jump start a depleted piece of ground. Roger, I appreciate that you spoke up for the finer

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-22 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Roger, Great post, as all ways, Have a good one! Gil Roger Pye wrote: Allan Balliett wrote:

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-22 Thread Roger Pye
Allan Balliett wrote: Lloyd said: Roger, dont you think you have got a bit carried away with this? Lloyd , I assume that Roger was responding to my more generalized statement about the use of artificial fertilizers to jump start a depleted piece of ground. Roger, I appreciate that you

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-22 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium Think now about the other 700 grams per kilo which are used in some way by plants. These are mineral salts, remember. Every gram

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-18 Thread Allan Balliett
Dear friends - Does anyone know of anyone who has 'applied lime' using the Kolisko approach? If so, can you comment on the effect(s)? Thanks _Allan

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-18 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Chris Shade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:34 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium Chris Allan et al., . With cal nitrate , Ca(NO3)2, you are applying two nitrates for every calcium, so if you used alot, you

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-18 Thread Allan Balliett
Lloyd - Remind me: how do you get the calcium nitrate down? What are your rates? How would you modify this if you were working in a garden? Thanks -Allan

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-18 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium Lloyd - Remind me: how do you get the calcium nitrate down? What are your rates? How would you modify this if you were

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-18 Thread RH
12/18/2002 10:21:55 AM, Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have contact info on this Phil Wheeler? Dr. Phil Wheeler can be contacted at Crop Services International Inc., 1718 Madison S.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49507-2518, phone (616) 246-7933, fax (616) 246-6039, e-mail [EMAIL

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-17 Thread Allan Balliett
Dorothy, et al - If you get a good soil test, like one from Jerry Brunetti http://www.agri-dynamics.com or Joel at Logan Labs, the recommendations for lime will be layed right for you: you'll know if you need dolomite or if you need high-calcium lime. A good soil test interpreter will also

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-17 Thread Lloyd Charles
. Graham of Nutri-Tech at ACRES pointed out that I couldn't possibly have adequate accessible lime in one season and that I should have moved to liquid calcium in my situation. I realize that this is not a certificable organic substance, but I also understand that it is considered to be a

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-17 Thread Allan Balliett
Pardon my ignorance, Lloyd: do you have any idea of why calcium nitrate is not acceptable for organically certified crops? Graham is very health conscious and he was very accepting of calcium nitrate as a first season or emergency input. How do you feel about it? (And, why?) Thanks! -Allan

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-17 Thread Roger Pye
Allan Balliett wrote: As everyone knows, I worked in a hellish situation last summer. (I growing food for 160 families on soil that had been supporting no-till conventional ag for the previous 30 years) We needed a lot of lime to reach our Albrecht goals. I bought the finest talc-like lime I

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-17 Thread RH
12/17/2002 9:26:22 AM, Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to experiment with liquid Calcium in my 2003 gardens. Does anyone know where or how to buy it in the US? Phil Wheeler in Michigan sells it. He's a brixer. I'm looking for more advice on buying field lime, also. Try

Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-17 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium Pardon my ignorance, Lloyd: do you have any idea of why calcium nitrate is not acceptable for organically certified crops