Re: Drought update

2002-07-29 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 7/28/02 11:58:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had been running the lower well stuff (BC, 500, WHC) all night and then the upper well (501 ,508 ) only for two hours of a morning as I believed that doing these all day was clearing the clouds away. Sorry, but Horsetail is

Re: Drought update

2002-07-28 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Lloyd It was Hugh Lovel that introduced the concept of using Horsetail to stop perception. He has his Fieldbroadcaster users put the Horsetail in when there is a risk of frost, as frost is the result of freezing dew, no dew, no frost, at least for three or so degrees below freezing. I have

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-03-04 Thread Glen Atkinson
Pam DeTray wrote: Did you buy the potentizer to make your own reagents? Thanks. Pam DeTray What is this potentiser. Is it a two well radionics box or similiar??? Is it portable. I imagine this might solve my problems of manifesting essences while travelling and the need for a lab. Glen A

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-03-04 Thread Glen Atkinson
Sounds great Lloyd, do you have an address for purchase? I am liking the imaginations of its potential and I look forward to experimenting with one Thanks Glen Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message - From: Glen Atkinson What is this potentiser Is it a two well radionics box or

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-03-04 Thread Glen Atkinson
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Pam DeTray wrote: Did you buy the potentizer to make your own reagents? Thanks. Pam DeTray What is this potentiser. Is it a two well radionics box or similiar??? Is it portable. I imagine this might solve my problems

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-03-01 Thread jsherry
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Hi James: I'll try to keep it short. I started using the FB in May 2000, at first I had no idea how to use it, beyond how I used the cosmic pipe it replaced.

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-03-01 Thread D S Chamberlain
- From: jsherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 March 2002 11:59 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Hi David, I guess in my haste around the radionics material, I must have missed the difference btwn. the FB and the cosmic pipe which I thought was an FB

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-25 Thread James and Barbara Hedley
policing? Until next time, Sincere regards James Hedley To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Glen - You present concerns that Peter Tompkins expressed to me a couple of years back. Peter is so concerned about

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-25 Thread James and Barbara Hedley
Message - From: D S Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) I agree with all that has been said about the dangers, BUT if we untrained suckers don't do it who will? Do we all sit back and await

Re: future of the bd remedies was Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-24 Thread Hugh Lovel
In a message dated 2/17/02 4:11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So yes in the US its a dead word and Gils comment stands, elswhere it is what we the practioners make it and the Associations are just monuments to certain individuals egos and near on irrelevant except to a fanatical few. Im for

future of the bd remedies was Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-23 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 2/17/02 4:11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So yes in the US its a dead word and Gils comment stands, elswhere it is what we the practioners make it and the Associations are just monuments to certain individuals egos and near on irrelevant except to a fanatical few. Im

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Gil Robertson
Thanks Lloyd, That makes much more sense. I have a lot of problems with a Laboratory attached to Sales Organisation and I would also have a lot of difficulty with the use of Radionics in this area. When I am doing soil reclamation work, that requires a Lab Test, I use one of two Labs, then pay a

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Steven McFadden
I wish you'd comment on this info a bit more. What intentional particles? And intention--who's and how to counteract this? Hi All - I would first observe that, from the point of view of Western Tropical astrology, both Uranus (Cosmic Shakti) and Neptune (Cosmic Waters) are in the dry, yang

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread jsherry
18, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Gil I support your concerns here. The little amount of playing around with my pipe tells me it is a very powerful instrument that can very easily be abused, consciously or unconsciously. And my experiements with the BD preps show me

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Essie Hull
: Radionics (Drought update) how does this new information jive with the growing belief among growers that tiny manmade airborne particles are being intentionally released in the atmosphere? Most uncomfortably, I should say. - S Steven McFadden Chiron Communications 7 Avenida

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Allan Balliett
I wish you'd comment on this info a bit more. What intentional particles? And intention--who's and how to counteract this? Jane - I talk to farmer regularly - particularly farmers in California's Central Valley - who believe that the u.s. airforce is depositing small particles of aluminum in

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-19 Thread Essie Hull
At 09:52 PM 2/14/02 +1100, James and Barbara wrote: This proposition is backed up by the use of Sai Baba's Sanjeevini healing cards that can be downloaded from his web page. Would you please send me the web address - I can't seem to locate the cards. Thanks, Essie Hull

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-19 Thread Lloyd Charles
Hi Gil --- Yeah I did it again eh -- garbled my message! I was referring to the use of radionic analysis to build physical fertiliser programs which is a bit outside of BD but common practice in eco farming circles. When we couple this with the situation of commission sales or

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Steven McFadden
This just in - research on disturbed rain patterns worldwide. Sigh, Steven New satellite data shows tiny airborne particles are changing rainfall patterns around the world, researchers said Sunday. The man-made particles, mostly from burning fossil fuels, make it more difficult for clouds to

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Allan Balliett
So, Steve, et al, how does this new information jive with the growing belief among growers that tiny manmade airborne particles are being intentionally released in the atmosphere? -Allan This just in - research on disturbed rain patterns worldwide. Sigh, Steven New satellite data shows

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Jane, Hugh and the List. I agree with your concerns about some one driving a Cosmic Pipe or other Radionic Device and putting out energy other than that which is desired. I could make your skin crawl with stories about inappropriate use and miss use of these devices. That is one of the

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Gil Robertson
Thanks Allan, Points taken. As I said, I do not understand how there can be a basis in Law, by which one can do that. The term was in general use in many countries long before the trademark was issued, thus in any Law System based on either Common Law or Statue Law, could not Trademark it.

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics Accreditation Dear Gil and list -- My remarks here are to be taken as only applying to experimental use of radionics in agriculture

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Glen Atkinson
Gil I support your concerns here. The little amount of playing around with my pipe tells me it is a very powerful instrument that can very easily be abused, consciously or unconsciously. And my experiements with the BD preps show me they are also very powerful and can create chaos if used

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Virginia Salares
Gil, The Sanjeevini cards are awesome. Thank you to you and James and Barbara Hadley for bringing them to my (and other list members') attention. There is nothing that would indicate to me that these prayers are anything but pure. And yet I have the hardest time reconciling these with the

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Allan Balliett
Glen - You present concerns that Peter Tompkins expressed to me a couple of years back. Peter is so concerned about the misuse of eloptic energy that he will neither towers of power nor cosmic pipes on his property. He also expressed concern for what would become of mankind if radionics was

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Virginia, The Sanjeevini cards are awesome. I recognise your concern about things that have been reported about Sai Baba. I to do not know what to make of it. I have read the material in Nexus and in several Web Sites. I know a number of people who have been drawn to him and made the big

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread D S Chamberlain
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics Accreditation Dear Gil and list -- My remarks here are to be taken as only applying

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-18 Thread Gil Robertson
Hugh Lovel wrote: Snip:- I'm not comfortable with calling myself biodynamic if it means I become associated with the kind of behavior Demeter has shown. I don't want to be branded with the nomenclature of a stuck-up insular cult. I am with you. Gil

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-17 Thread Hugh Lovel
No, but all this shows is that BD organisations are out of touch with the true wholism of Biodynamics. And so be it. This is a point often made on this list. Glen Gil Robertson wrote: Glen Atkinson wrote: I d like to suggest BD is a complete system and the above are just part of it. You

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-17 Thread Rural Center for Responsible Living
It was written, So why not use Radionic Devices and do it from the comfort of the office? This is what worries (for lack of a better way of putting it) the more archaic folk. Why not put your love for your kids in a radionic device and do so from the comfort of the office? It seems to me that

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-17 Thread Allan Balliett
I truly do not mean to bash anyone. It is just a shame to see such a wonderful concept turn into such bickering, anger and the need to prove or put down. Just for the record, Chris, I missed the anger and bickering that seems to have disturbed you. I've just seen Gil, Glen, Hugh, Jane, et al

Re: Radionics (Drought update) FOR BDNOW

2002-02-17 Thread bdnow
Please Forward. Thanks. I truly do not mean to bash anyone. It is just a shame to see such a wonderful concept turn into such bickering, anger and the need to prove or put down. Dear Chris, Allan, Hugh, Glen, et al, Well, that's one opinion. Everyone has one. We all tend to see things through

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-17 Thread Gil Robertson
Hugh Lovel wrote: Snip - To me the best thing that has happened to Steiner's work is that Demeter (Anne Mendenhall) has said We own the term biodynamic and we control its use. Now if you want to really use Steiner's ideas in freedom you have to go beyond the term biodynamic. I do not understand

Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-17 Thread Gil Robertson
Allan Balliett wrote: Snip - Folks, be polite by all means, and, yes, inhabit a living a prayer, but please don't allow yourself to be ashamed to share a divergent opinion, or a heartfelt question. Here here, Gil

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-16 Thread Glen Atkinson
HUGH wrote.. Yes point taken. In the US the term Biodynamics is owned by an organisation and thus they can define it. Here in NZ it is a generic word and one of its meaning is 'a agricultural system based on the indications of RS'. Which according to my reading allows for all things

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-15 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Virginia, Thank you for sharing your experiences. There are so many stories of people taking responsibility for there patch without chemicals and I am very interested in the concept of being able to control precipitation and evaporation. I flew over many deserts on my way to England and found

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-15 Thread Hugh Lovel
I guess I didn't understand what this meant until this post for which I thank you all. Having been an artist in my previous incarnation in this life, paper is something I could get excited about. Now blessed water by paper...wow! I'm ready! I always suspected there must be some really good

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-14 Thread Lloyd Charles
Gil Robertson wrote While BD is the best Ag System we have to date. It is at this time, not a complete system. We also have to consider Paramagnetics, water restructuring, mineral balance, clay spreading, gypsum spreading, ameliorating salinity etc. The delivering of BD to large

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-14 Thread Hugh Lovel
Thanks for your explanation Markess. I was unfamiliar with the term conings as you had assumed. As for radionics, I am a bit surprised that you (of course I don't know you so I'm not sure why I am surprised...) use a radionic device. I am NOT a bd purist, or purist of any kind. However, my

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-14 Thread Glen Atkinson
Gil Robertson wrote: While BD is the best Ag System we have to date. It is at this time, not a complete system. We also have to consider Paramagnetics, water restructuring, mineral balance, clay spreading, gypsum spreading, ameliorating salinity etc. I d like to suggest BD is a complete

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-14 Thread jsherry
PM Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update) From: jsherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:37:05 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update) But I do believe the human body is the perfect radionic instrument. Blessings

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-14 Thread Gil Robertson
Glen Atkinson wrote: I d like to suggest BD is a complete system and the above are just part of it. You are welcome to do so, but can you show me a BD registering organisation that includes them in their requirements? Gil

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-14 Thread Gil Robertson
update) From: jsherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:37:05 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update) But I do believe the human body is the perfect radionic instrument. Blessings, Jane Quoting John Trudell the other

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread jsherry
, I'll let ya know. Blessings on good work, with or without radionic devices. Jane - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Hi! Jane, Radionics is a formalization

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Sarah Cherry
What you say is true of, I believe, any device used to transfer the subtle energies...pendulum, whatever. The instrument is needed for focus, and, after a while, beings will attend to aid the work. Do you know of anyone carrying Drown's work forward? Also, have you ever heard of Oscar Brunler?

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Sarah Cherry
instrument.Blessings,Jane- Original Message -From: "Wayne and Sharon McEachern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:49 AMSubject: Re: Radionics (Drought update)Jane -- please read on.Moen Creek wrote:Deva of Light Expression

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Good old web sez, http://www.chirobase.org/12Hx/drown.html This article originally appeared in the April 1968 issue of Today's Health, a magazine published by the American Medical Association. During the 1960s and 1970s, the author investigated and wrote

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Wayne and Sharon McEachern
do believe the human body is the perfect radionic instrument. Blessings, Jane - Original Message - From: Wayne and Sharon McEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:49 AM Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Jane -- please read

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Gil, please expound further on The really powerful systems in use currently are paper based. Here in Oz, Frank Moody found that the circuit of an instrument, would work as well as the physical instrument, in the hands of a trained practitioner. He later

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Gil Robertson
Re: Drown. The line of Radionic training that I had and will teach is directly down line from Ruth Drown. She did major development work, taking the Abrams concepts and making major simplifications to the instruments. From something that took at least two strong men to carry, she came up with

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Gil Robertson
Moen Creek wrote: Gil, Please expound further on The really powerful systems in use currently are paper based. Here in Oz, Frank Moody found that the circuit of an instrument, would work as well as the physical instrument, in the hands of a trained practitioner. He later developed this further

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-13 Thread Gil Robertson
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Hi! Jane, Radionics is a formalization of a number of closely related energetic

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-12 Thread Wayne and Sharon McEachern
Jane -- please read on. Moen Creek wrote: Jane, I'll take the moderately simple Q first. what do you mean by "conings"? Fran's training come through the Perelandra work. She calls in higher selves, spirit guides, the White Brotherhood, leaves room for participants to ask in their personals

Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-12 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Jane, Radionics is a formalization of a number of closely related energetic methodologies. Radionics traces it's history over a similar period as BD. There are a number of schools of thought in Radionics and some do not speak to others. Radionics ranges from the very complex to the very

Re: Drought update

2002-02-08 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
That was the site I have forwarded to the list about a week ago. Jose Hi Folks! I must admit that I am losing track here a little bit -- anyway, I found this website that shows how to build a cloudbuster so that you can compare notes. Any further comparative notes would be appreciated.

Cloudbusting was Re: Drought update

2002-02-07 Thread Allan Balliett
James DeMeo's Orgone Biophysical Research Lab homepage is at http://www.saharasia.org/index.htm Lot's of useful information there, and, of course, things to buy. I recollect from my own reading (but cannot site the publications right now) that in the Reichian literature there are many

Re: Drought update

2002-02-07 Thread Allan Balliett
DeMeo has a publication called something like So You want to Build a Cloudbuster that used to be available at his website. There are also warnings in the Orgone Accumulator Handbook -Allan Allan you wrote: My plans for a home accumulator were set aside after reading DeMeo's warnings. please

Re: Cloudbusting was Re: Drought update

2002-02-07 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Reichian Cloudbuster had indeed a design problem which is claimed to be solved in this new design in http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster__orgone_generator.html I am building a half size model but not sure if the modification will render it ineffective. Jose James DeMeo's Orgone Biophysical

Re: Drought update

2002-02-07 Thread Wayne and Sharon McEachern
Hi Folks! I must admit that I am losing track here a little bit -- anyway, I found this website that shows how to build a cloudbuster so that you can compare notes. Any further comparative notes would be appreciated. http://www.metatech.org/ Peace... Wayne

Re: Drought update

2002-02-06 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Drought update Allan you wrote: My plans for a home accumulator were set aside after reading DeMeo's warnings. please delineate where you found a warning by DeMeo. Was he referencing the one outlined on http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster__orgone_generator.html Thanks Markess

Re: Drought update

2002-02-06 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Drought update I'd like to hear about more people who are doing things like this. -Allan Allan, we have a chemtrail buster as specked (sp?) on http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster__orgone_generator.html It has been operating in our driveway since mid Oct 2001. A dear friend BD

Drought update

2002-02-05 Thread D S Chamberlain
3 inches of rain in last 24 hours, ah life is good! David C

Re: Drought update

2002-02-05 Thread Gil Robertson
The dynamics of drought are very interesting. The Dor Buster was very dangerous to use as it resulted in the Dor being channelled back to the device. With what we are doing and Hugh Lovel, who gave me the idea, does, is clearing the Dor, or what ever it is that is stopping precipitation and