Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

Seeed now has a page dedicated to their Beaglebone Green: http://www.seeed.cc/beaglebone_green/ I don't yet see the board in any sales channel though, and it's still not listed in Seeed's shop via the given Purchase link. It's certainly an interesting variation on the BB theme, hopefully one of

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

I'm wondering the same thing that Bruce mentioned about whether or not "Grove" is something other than just gimmick or not. I2C . . . with some fancy dressing on top. Which personally, I've yet to work with I2C, but if it's about the same as picking up SPI, CAN, or other similar embedded type IO. I

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

On May 31, 2015 4:10 PM, "Bruce Boyes" wrote: > > You may be right on those specific items. Apologies if my comments were based on out of date information. And it does seem Seeed's documentation has improved a bit since I was last on their site several months ago. > > The BBB Green announcement is

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

You may be right on those specific items. Apologies if my comments were based on out of date information. And it does seem Seeed's documentation has improved a bit since I was last on their site several months ago. The BBB Green announcement is from two weeks ago; I had not heard of it. Thanks for

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

Bruce writes: *> Seeedstudio just clones OSHW and arguably adds no value* Arguable by whom? It's not a rational premise. Seeedstudio modified the Beaglebone Black OSHW design into a new Beaglebone Green featuring two Grove System

[beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

> > Yeah, me too. The CHIP for $9 is certainly interesting, at least at first. > Allwinner is kind of a so-so chip vendor, known for making cheap crap such > as these > tablets: > http://www.amazon.com/9-inch-Android-AllWinner-Capacitive-Multi-touch/dp/B007SZNY80/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=U

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

As someone who has actually shipped small items like PCBs for my XBee cape and XBee cape kits internationally, I can tell you that this is not really steep at all. For example, sending 3 PCBs to the UK in a regular envelope cost me $11. Priority mail is $22 and Express Priority mail is close to $

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

On 2015-05-30 at 20:57:25 -0400, Mike wrote: > >Are you saying that they have excessive shipping/handling charges? > >I didn't look. What are they? > 5.00 USD if you choose the 9.00 board, that ships in 2/16. Hardly > gouging... I believe the complaints have been about international shipping. Ye

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

> > *Yet, you want to throw this advantage away by letting it fade through > lack of family evolution.* > > *It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Perhaps you're not aware of the > great value of what you have.* Since you're purporting to know more about the given situation than the person who

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

On 05/30/2015 07:36 PM, rh_ wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2015 22:32:38 +0200 Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: I wonder if it's still a loss leader when you count the higher than average postage rates Are you saying that they have excessive shipping/handling charges? I didn't look. What are they? Gerald

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

Gerald wrote: *> Yes I can certainly crank out 25 or 30 more versions of the BBB with all sort of combinations.* Inventing a flawed argument only to knock it down is called a straw man --- don't do it. Nobody suggested cranking out 25 or 30 versions other than yourself, and yes, I agree with you

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

None of those look familiar, except the varesite SOMs look similar to what I'm remembering. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Jesse Cobra wrote: > One of these? > http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Sitara_ARM_MPU_SOM/SBC > > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, William Hermans > wrote: > >>

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

One of these? http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Sitara_ARM_MPU_SOM/SBC On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, William Hermans wrote: > err, sorry did not mean to say system on a chip, meant to say a tiny SBC. > As in something a good bit smaller than the BBB > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:02 PM,

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

err, sorry did not mean to say system on a chip, meant to say a tiny SBC. As in something a good bit smaller than the BBB On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:02 PM, William Hermans wrote: > Didn't one user of the community make / build an SoC based on the BBB - > Last year ? Something with a DIMM like int

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

Didn't one user of the community make / build an SoC based on the BBB - Last year ? Something with a DIMM like interface, and minimal pin-outs. For like ~$35 ? Anyway I'm having a hard time understanding how one could *try* and compare a $9 garbage board that has a fraction of the intrinsic value

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

No guts, No glory ! On 5/29/2015 6:13 PM, Gerald Coley wrote: > Not sure on the single core board. Depends on how my therapy sessions > go on recovering from this one. > > It would be possible to provide the same amount of memory, but it just > 32b one bus instead of two. > DSPs are half. > I b

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

@Morgaine Yes I can certainly crank out 25 or 30 more versions of the BBB with all sort of combinations. If you drop HDMI you will save $3. Yes, that's right $3. So we go from $55 to $52. As long as someone agrees to buy 25,000 of each it would make sense to do. Otherwise, the price goes up becau

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

Not sure on the single core board. Depends on how my therapy sessions go on recovering from this one. It would be possible to provide the same amount of memory, but it just 32b one bus instead of two. DSPs are half. I believe the PRUs are the same. PCIe is only one lane instead of two. Original

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

> "Once you stop learning, you start dying" That sounds depressingly like an obituary, because the main lessons of the last several years in this space have been that: 1. Price is king. 2. The sales/price curve is an exponential over price, and even a poor design that's cheap can sell m

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

it will have* -> No idea where "hald" came from. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:00 PM, William Hermans wrote: > Gerald, > > So you mentioned a less expensive board with a single core processor. Is > this the only difference, or do you think there will be other differences > too ? Mostly I'm just wond

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

Gerald, So you mentioned a less expensive board with a single core processor. Is this the only difference, or do you think there will be other differences too ? Mostly I'm just wondering if that board would have the same amount of ddr, which I'm hoping it will. Can we also assume since that proce

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

On 2015-05-29 at 12:15:02 -0700, rh_ wrote: > On Thu, 28 May 2015 20:25:58 -0400 > Chris Morgan wrote: > > > I've read about that board as well. Their kickstarter FAQ doesn't > > indicate anything about being a loss leader, but claims that they are > > It's a loss leader, maybe they just don't k

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Up, up and away and x15

"Once you stop learning, you start dying" A.E. Gerald On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:52 PM, rh_ wrote: > On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:17:45 -0500 > Gerald Coley wrote: > > > There is a number out there that says the price should be 2.6x the > > cost of the BOM. I will say that the X-15 will be less tha