Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2015 07:25:40 UTC+2 schrieb Mickae1:
As everyone said, use the beaglebone black as you want ! But don't blame
the community if there is problems of availability or compatibility in the
future !
TI states the AM335X will be available for 9 years, Gerald states the BBB
Blame does happen. Not sure why, but it does.
Gerald
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Karl Karpfen karlkarpfe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2015 07:25:40 UTC+2 schrieb Mickae1:
As everyone said, use the beaglebone black as you want ! But don't blame
the community if there is
*OK but it is capable to be used for commercial/industrial purposes - so
why should't it be used for that? Farnell, RS and I think Specialcomp too
sell them by thousands - all to commercial customers. So I don't see a good
reason why it should not be used for that - just because _initially_
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Karl Karpfen karlkarpfe...@gmail.com wrote:
It may not be relevant for hobbyists that always want to have the latest
hardware and replace their board every month, but it is HIGHLY relevant for
all kinds of industry usage where a hardware needs to stay available
There are indeed two camps - the bleeding edge that loves change and the
trailing edge that wants stability. God bless both camps as they depend on
each other for a viable ecosystem.
Thanks to BeagleBoard open source and parts/doc public availability, we can
attempt to tackle the perils that we
*There are indeed two camps - the bleeding edge that loves change and the
trailing edge that wants stability. God bless both camps as they depend on
each other for a viable ecosystem.*
To be clear: The camp I'm in understands that the beaglebone was never
meant to be used in a commercial
2015-05-22 4:25 GMT+02:00 William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com:
To be clear: The camp I'm in understands that the beaglebone was never
meant to be used in a commercial product.
OK but it is capable to be used for commercial/industrial purposes - so why
should't it be used for that? Farnell, RS
As everyone said, use the beaglebone black as you want ! But don't blame
the community if there is problems of availability or compatibility in the
future !
Le ven. 22 mai 2015 à 06:55, Karl Karpfen karlkarpfe...@gmail.com a
écrit :
2015-05-22 4:25 GMT+02:00 William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com:
*It may not be relevant for hobbyists that always want to have the latest
hardware and replace their board every month, but it is HIGHLY relevant for
all kinds of industry usage where a hardware needs to stay available and
stable over a longer period. There it does not matter when the device
If small is a relative term, and BBB cape compatibility is not on the table,
can you aim for slim?
By which I mean - no double height USB connectors, etc.
Apple have a lot to answer for, making laptops and phone thinner every year.
The problem is, customers start to want thin even when there's
There is not a better processor available from TI that can fit into the
Altoids box sized BBB. We have a processor that is much better but will not
fit on the baoad. So we are doing the X15. Not sure how else to say it.
We will be building the BBB for a very long time.
Gerald
On Wed, May 20,
2015-05-20 15:12 GMT+02:00 Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org:
We will be building the BBB for a very long time.
This is good news. To give it some numbers, will it be 3, 4, 5 or more
years?
Karl
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As long as there are processors. I would say at least 5 to 10. But that is
TI's call. You might ask Jason what TI's plans are for availability.
Gerald
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Karl Karpfen karlkarpfe...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-05-20 15:12 GMT+02:00 Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org:
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Karl Karpfen karlkarpfe...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-05-20 15:12 GMT+02:00 Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org:
We will be building the BBB for a very long time.
This is good news. To give it some numbers, will it be 3, 4, 5 or more
years?
The general plan is
*That's a real problem if the interface doesn't stay compatible in the
future. When I look at Arduino, capes are compatible with previous
versions. Same goes with the Raspberry Pi. Version 1 to version 2 adds
features, but generally keeps compatibility between them. With the
Beagle's,
Isn't 10 years just the total life of the chip/product line? This
doesn't say TI is going to be advancing that processor line.
Consider that right now the Pi2 has a quad core processor. If TI isn't
going to be keeping up with that kind of pace of processor development
for the AM335x line (or
Pin muxing is something that can very easily be controlled in software /
managed with software changes and routing on the board. However, if the
physical interface is different, you end up throwing out all of the
peripherals you have. Think of it this way: how standard would USB be if
each
Also, we're talking 10 years down the road here. Whose to say what will
happen by then. Take a look at the MSP430 line of MCUs for example. I do
not know the exact history of the MCU line, but it became popular, and it
is still with us . . . refreshes have been made, changes / variations have
been
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
Lately TI even extended the MSP430 line by mixing in the M4F processor .
For high end applications. Is it truly an MSP430 though ? Here, I think
the more important question should be: Does it even matter ?
You are
Not if it takes 5 pins to equal the peripheral mix needed by one standard
BBB pin.
Gerald
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Walter Schilling schill...@msoe.edu
wrote:
Pin muxing is something that can very easily be controlled in software /
managed with software changes and routing on the
I guess I should mention why, at least to me, it does matter. We use the
Beagle in coursework on campus, teaching students how to develop real time
systems. We first started out with the XM, and a set of peripherals.
However, right as we were ready to gear up for the course, the XM
That is a question for Jason. He is the TI guy.
Gerald
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Chris Morgan chmor...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't 10 years just the total life of the chip/product line? This
doesn't say TI is going to be advancing that processor line.
Consider that right now the Pi2 has
2015-05-20 18:15 GMT+02:00 Chris Morgan chmor...@gmail.com:
Isn't 10 years just the total life of the chip/product line? This
doesn't say TI is going to be advancing that processor line.
Plesse chek out this thread, there is a link to a TI-statement where they
say it will be available for a
BeagleBone Black needed to be cheap. something had to go. Rest of the
expansion signals are the same and those signals are still there on the
board..
I disagree that the changes were radical. I fact, we lowered the cost and
added features.
If we change to another processor, the pin muxing
That's a real problem if the interface doesn't stay compatible in the
future. When I look at Arduino, capes are compatible with previous
versions. Same goes with the Raspberry Pi. Version 1 to version 2 adds
features, but generally keeps compatibility between them. With the
Beagle's, each
Hi,
I'm aware of the fact that there can't be a obligatory answer to my
question, so I'm happy with any kind of rumours and rough ideas:
As far as I know TI does not further develop the AM335X series, more than
this I remember an article where they stated they drop the whole mobile
devices
On 19/05/15 16:45, Karl Karpfen wrote:
So: what future could be there for the BeagleBone (Black)? Will there be a
somehow compatible successor? Or what else is planned?
Well, there's the upcoming X15.
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-X15
And if I were a betting man, I'd put a few
May 19th 2015 16.39.22 UTC+2 Karl/Gerald/Mickae1 wrote:
As far as I know TI does not further develop the AM335X series, more
than this I remember an article where they stated they drop the whole
mobile devices marked where this CPU was intended for originally.
BeagleBone Black at this point
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM, m...@mikini.dk wrote:
May 19th 2015 16.39.22 UTC+2 Karl/Gerald/Mickae1 wrote:
As far as I know TI does not further develop the AM335X series, more
than this I remember an article where they stated they drop the whole mobile
devices marked where this CPU was
If I knew that, I would have mentioned that. I would say maybe late
September. We hope to have a few beta boards in about 6 weeks. Jason is
handling who gets those boards. Right now, we are going back into layout to
fix yet another TI feature.
Gerald
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Robert P.
BeagleBone Black at this point has no processor future due to TI's dead end
road map.
We are working on the BeagleBoard-X15 which is the next product to come
out. Due to the form factor of the BBB, it cannot support the AM5728
processor. The BBB is just too small, but it does fit in the Altoids
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 10:14:20 AM UTC-4, Gerald wrote:
If I knew that, I would have mentioned that. I would say maybe late
September. We hope to have a few beta boards in about 6 weeks. Jason is
handling who gets those boards. Right now, we are going back into layout to
fix yet
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Philip philip.balis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 10:14:20 AM UTC-4, Gerald wrote:
If I knew that, I would have mentioned that. I would say maybe late
September. We hope to have a few beta boards in about 6 weeks. Jason is
handling who gets
Hi, where did you get those information? Where did Texas say that it is
over for the am335x?
Le mar. 19 mai 2015 16:30, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Philip philip.balis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 10:14:20 AM UTC-4,
This processor and board is no where near compatible with capes. Totally
different connectors.
Gerald
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Micka mickamus...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, where did you get those information? Where did Texas say that it is
over for the am335x?
Le mar. 19 mai 2015 16:30,
Small is a relative term. This thing has been one big headache after
another.
Gerlad
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:49 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
4 x 4.5 inches is still pretty darned small. Especially considering what
is on the board. Looking forward to the board, even if not
On Tue, 19 May 2015, Gerald Coley wrote:
BeagleBone Black at this point has no processor future due to TI's
dead end road map. We are working on the BeagleBoard-X15 which is
the next product to come out. Due to the form factor of the BBB, it
cannot support the AM5728 processor. The BBB is
TI and their features eh lol
On 5/19/2015 8:59 AM, Gerald Coley wrote:
Small is a relative term. This thing has been one big headache after
another.
Gerlad
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:49 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
4 x 4.5 inches is still
Here are a couple of pictures.
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-X15
Gerald
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
wrote:
This processor and board is no where near compatible with capes. Totally
different connectors.
Gerald
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at
4 x 4.5 inches is still pretty darned small. Especially considering what is
on the board. Looking forward to the board, even if not the price :/
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
wrote:
Here are a couple of pictures.
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