RE: using strict

2004-04-05 Thread david
Guay Jean-SÃbastien wrote: > I am sorry David, it just seems like I am having trouble communicating > clearly. We are apparently in a disagreement, but your points are not at > all what I wanted to explain... I'll try again. i totally understand what you are saying and like i said before, your po

RE: using strict

2004-04-05 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
Hello Joseph, David, > A stronger argument has to do with mindset. The || operator is an > expression evaluation operator, appropriate to mathematical or paramathematical > expressions. The context really calls for a flow-control operator, or. Thanks for making my point better than I could, Jos

RE: using strict

2004-04-05 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
Hello Joseph, > One thing I would request is that you trim off any material to which you are not > responding from old posts. This helps keep bandwidth and storage needs down. I'll keep that in mind. I usually don't keep all the thread of replies that Outlook ( grrr) keeps at the bottom, seems l

RE: using strict

2004-04-05 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
I am sorry David, it just seems like I am having trouble communicating clearly. We are apparently in a disagreement, but your points are not at all what I wanted to explain... I'll try again. > you should test it yourself. i am not sure how good you are > with Perl and i > don't want to sound lik

Re: using strict

2004-04-04 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:28:42PM -0700, R. Joseph Newton wrote: > > > Guay Jean-Sébastien wrote: > > > > > > my $errors = 0; > > > open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || $errors += 2; > > > > > > that will translate to: > > > > > > my $errors = 0; > > > ( open (CRITICALSERVERS

Re: using strict

2004-04-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:28:42PM -0700, R. Joseph Newton wrote: > Guay Jean-Sébastien wrote: > > > > my $errors = 0; > > open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || $errors += 2; > > > > that will translate to: > > > > my $errors = 0; > > ( open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || $errors ) += 2; > > Nope.

Re: using strict

2004-04-04 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Guay Jean-Sébastien wrote: > > There is no problem syntactically. But there is a problem with the > precdence. If you ever have another operation on either the left or right > side of the || operator, the || operator will bind tighter than the other > operation. So for example, if you do: > > my $

Re: using strict

2004-04-04 Thread R. Joseph Newton
david wrote: > Guay Jean-Sébastien wrote: > > > >> open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || die "can't open file \n: $!"; > > > > As I said, you should replace || by or in the above line. See the > > precedence rules in "perldoc perlop" for details. > > > > why do you think so? is there any problem in

Re: using strict

2004-04-04 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Guay Jean-Sébastien wrote: > Hello Derek, > > > Guay, > > Err, my first name is Jean-Sebastien. Hi Jean-Sebastien, > My last name is Guay. French-language > people have a bad habit to put the last name first, as in "Guay, > Jean-Sebastien"... So I understand why this is a bit confusing. Thanks

Re: using strict

2004-04-04 Thread R. Joseph Newton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yet another great explanation.. What explanation? I see niothing above this. Please do not top-post when posting to this list. Instead, follow the material to which you are directly responding with your response, then trim any extraneous material. Most of us keep re

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread david
Guay Jean-SÃbastien wrote: >> Guay Jean-SÃbastien wrote: >>> open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || die "can't open file \n: $!"; >>> >>> As I said, you should replace || by or in the above line. See the >>> precedence rules in "perldoc perlop" for details. >> >> why do you think so? is there

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
Hello Derek, > can I email you from know on??? : ) You are so through! Thank you! No, I would prefer that you always reply to the list. First reason is that other beginners can benefit from our exchange (and the mails end up in a searchable archive), second is that if I'm not there (or for th

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread DBSMITH
construct instead of the array assuming memory is not an issue? Derek B. Smith OhioHealth IT UNIX / TSM / EDM Teams Guay Jean-Sébastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/02/2004 02:20 PM To: Perl Beginners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: using strict

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
> Guay Jean-SÃbastien wrote: >> >>> open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || die "can't open file \n: $!"; >> >> As I said, you should replace || by or in the above line. See the >> precedence rules in "perldoc perlop" for details. > > why do you think so? is there any problem in the above line? The

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread david
Guay Jean-SÃbastien wrote: > >> open (CRITICALSERVERS, "$crout") || die "can't open file \n: $!"; > > As I said, you should replace || by or in the above line. See the > precedence rules in "perldoc perlop" for details. > why do you think so? is there any problem in the above line? david -- s

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
t $line . "\n"; } As you can see, it is very similar, but since we get the whole file into the array, we can close it right after, and also we loop over the array instead of looping and getting one line at a time until we get to the end of the file. Hope this helps, Jean-Sébasti

Re: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread Randy W. Sims
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another great explanation... thank you! But I still need to know how to print each specific element # along with its data? Is this the right way to go for storing each line in its own element??? while $line < FILEHANDLE > my @tsm = < FILEHANDLE > foreach $_ (@tsm)

Re: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread DBSMITH
int $_ , "\n"; Derek B. Smith OhioHealth IT UNIX / TSM / EDM Teams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/2004 06:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: using strict In a message dated 4/1/2004 5:03:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [E

RE: using strict

2004-04-02 Thread DBSMITH
t; cc: Subject:RE: using strict Hello Derek, When using strict, the error message should point you to the line where the error is. It's usually pretty darn good at pointing the right line. In this case, I bet it's this one: >while ( defined($line = )

Re: using strict

2004-04-01 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the following turn off strict for a vars? no strict "vars"; Could you also turn off strict for other things besides vars, refs and subs? Say for a subroutine (for example). Pragma are block/file scoped similar to a lexical. To answer your question below, yes you c

Re: using strict

2004-04-01 Thread WilliamGunther
In a message dated 4/1/2004 5:03:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People of the Perl, >from my understanding strict disallows soft references, ensures that all >variables are declared before usage and disallows barewords except for >subroutines. > >what is a soft referen

Re: using strict

2004-04-01 Thread u235sentinel
Does the following turn off strict for a vars? no strict "vars"; Could you also turn off strict for other things besides vars, refs and subs? Say for a subroutine (for example). Just curious. I've run into situations where I've come across badly maintained code and would like to do this for

Re: using strict

2004-04-01 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 4/1/2004 5:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People of the Perl, from my understanding strict disallows soft references, ensures that all variables are declared before usage and disallows barewords except for subroutines. what is a soft reference? what is a bareword? why is strict disallowin

Re: using strict

2004-04-01 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of Thursday, April 1, 2004 5:01 PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is alleged to have said: what is a soft reference? what is a bareword? why is strict disallowing a compile here When I comment out strict the syntax checks outs as ok!??? how do I display each element # with its corresponding

RE: using strict

2004-04-01 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
Hello Derek, When using strict, the error message should point you to the line where the error is. It's usually pretty darn good at pointing the right line. In this case, I bet it's this one: >while ( defined($line = ) ) { There is no declaration of the $line variable. Try declaring it f

RE: using strict and -w

2002-05-01 Thread Bob Showalter
> -Original Message- > From: Robert "Beau" Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: using strict and -w > > ... And where might I have found that answer within > perldoc? I tried > perldoc -q strict and got "No documentat

Re: using strict and -w

2002-04-30 Thread drieux
On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 05:27 , Robert Beau Link wrote: [..] > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > use strict; > > print "Number, please..."; > $alpha = ; > print "Another, please..."; > $beta = ; > $sum= $alpha + $beta; > $diff = $alpha - $beta; > $product = $alpha * $beta; > $quotient = $alpha / $bet

Re: Using strict and getting return values

2002-03-04 Thread Jonathan E. Paton
--- Dermot Paikkos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Gurus, > > I am trying to get tidy with my scripts and want to > use Strict Use lowercase for strict! Anything else will cause havoc. > but am having difficulty with return values from > subroutines. I have the following snippet: > > whi

RE: Using strict and getting return values

2002-03-04 Thread Jason Larson
> -Original Message- > From: Dermot Paikkos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Using strict and getting return values > > Hi Gurus, Well, I'm definitely not a guru, but I think I might be able to help... :) > > I am trying to get tidy with my scripts and want to use Strict but am >

Re: using Strict with filehandles

2001-09-05 Thread Andrea Holstein
Deborah Strickland wrote: > > Hi, > I can't find the answer to this in any of my many Perl books so I'm > asking you. I want to do 'use strict' but when I also use it with a file > handle I get an error. How can I declare a file handle variable such > that 'use strict' won't generate an error? >

Re: using strict - ADDENDUM

2001-06-27 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > But you can't say $file = "CHR1", beacuse then you are creating a symbolic > reference to a filehandle. Very bad. Do this instead: > > $file = *CHR1; > > Then you can properly use your filehandle. What you really want to do is > create an array of o

Re: using strict - ADDENDUM

2001-06-27 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Hans Holtan wrote: > I forgot to mention that I did open the output files earlier in the > program, ie CHR1, CHR3 ... CHR5. But you can't say $file = "CHR1", beacuse then you are creating a symbolic reference to a filehandle. Very bad. Do this instead: $file = *CHR1; The

Re: using strict

2001-06-27 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Hans Holtan wrote: > I get this error when I run my script, and I don't understand why: > > "Can't use string ("CHR3") as a symbol ref while "strict refs" in use > at AtIntergenicTableSort.pl line 53. " > > I'm trying to split my output into 5 seperate files based on what is

Re: using strict

2001-06-27 Thread Michael Fowler
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:54:17PM -0700, Paul wrote: > Another trick -- use FileHandle and put them into an array. > > my @FILE; > for (1..5) { > $FILE[$_] = new FileHandle "CHR$_" or die "CHR$_: $!"; > } > > now you can say: > > print $FILE[$_] ">$k\t$all_genes{$k}\n"; This do

Re: using strict - ADDENDUM

2001-06-27 Thread Michael Fowler
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:53:04PM -0700, Hans Holtan wrote: > #!usr/bin/perl -w > use strict; Add: use IO::File; > > > my ($input,$output,$k,$v,$gene, $input_string, Replace this: > $output1,$output2,$output3,$output4,$output5, with this: @filehandles, > $file, $junk,$i,

RE: using strict

2001-06-27 Thread Paul
--- Stephen Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fortunately or unfortunately, you can't print to files just by using > $file > as a filehandle. You need to open the file first. > > > foreach $k (sort keys (%all_genes)) { > for (1..5){ > if ($k =~ /[$_]g/){ >

RE: using strict

2001-06-27 Thread Stephen Nelson
Fortunately or unfortunately, you can't print to files just by using $file as a filehandle. You need to open the file first. foreach $k (sort keys (%all_genes)) { for (1..5){ if ($k =~ /[$_]g/){ $file = "CHR$_"; ope