Re: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread Mel Matsuoka
At 10:34 PM 07/13/2001 -0400, fliptop wrote: >Curtis Poe wrote: >> >> There are other reasons, too. Just today, I was asked to break >> a version of a Web site we were about to publically release. >> It took me 5 minutes to find a security hole and demonstrate >> that I could execute any arb

Re: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread fliptop
Curtis Poe wrote: > > There are other reasons, too. Just today, I was asked to break a version of a Web >site we were > about to publically release. It took me 5 minutes to find a security hole and >demonstrate that I > could execute any arbitrary SQL against our database by passing it throug

Re: a problem with Image::Size

2001-07-13 Thread Mel Matsuoka
[also cc'ed to the beginners-cgi list for everyones benefit] At 08:00 PM 07/13/2001 -0500, Teresa Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mel, thanks for pointing out the duplicate. I can't use strict >because I get an error msg, I think it's an older version of Perl - Thats what "use strict" is

Re: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread Curtis Poe
--- fliptop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think there are several things that help contribute to the testiness > of open source programmers in general: [snip] There are other reasons, too. Just today, I was asked to break a version of a Web site we were about to publically release. It took m

Re: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread fliptop
David Labatte wrote: > > heheheh now that all depends. If I run: > > perl -e'package hell; print *holes;' > > Then I get as output: > > *hell::holes > > Which actually more closely describes where programmers usually find > employment, not the programmers that are employed there. Commo

Re: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread David Labatte
heheheh now that all depends. If I run: perl -e'package hell; print *holes;' Then I get as output: *hell::holes Which actually more closely describes where programmers usually find employment, not the programmers that are employed there. Common mistake that. use strict and -w from now

Re: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread Mel Matsuoka
At 03:45 PM 07/13/2001 -0500, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: >I don't work with a lot of programmers. I hope to get into a situation where >I do. Is it fair to say the majority are *holes? A LOT of them are (just read c.l.p.m ;), but thier saving grace is that you can learn a LOT from them if you don't t

RE: Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread Bradley M. Handy
Honestly, I don't think it would be fair to say that. > -Original Message- > From: Camilo Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Nasty > > > I don't work with a lot of programmers. I hope to get into a > situation w

Nasty

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
I don't work with a lot of programmers. I hope to get into a situation where I do. Is it fair to say the majority are *holes? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: breakable loop???

2001-07-13 Thread Thomas Jakub
maybe I'm not implementing the SIG{ING} thingie right... I had a die; command in there, but that didn't work... --- Thomas Jakub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ummm... I can't seem to break out of my infinite > loops by doing crtl + c... consequently, I can't go > into the SIG{INT} function... I

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: > My apoligies, Brett. Consider me a lurker from now on. No need to apologize. We just wanted to make sure you understood the concept correctly. If you are expecting interpolation where there isn't, you'd be chasing bugs that didn't exist, and wastin

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
My apoligies, Brett. Consider me a lurker from now on. -Original Message- From: Brett W. McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:32 PM To: Camilo Gonzalez Cc: 'Bradley M. Handy'; Tony Paterra; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script On

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: > Yes it does, thank you. I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you. My > Programming Perl book tells me otherwise. I still consider myself a newbie, > however and welcome other comments. Did you even try to run the code? We can argue about it all day

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
You're right. Obviously my interpretation was incorrect. Thank you for possibly saving me work. -Original Message- From: Brett W. McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:18 PM To: Camilo Gonzalez Cc: 'Bradley M. Handy'; Tony Paterra; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: C

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Mel Matsuoka
At 03:16 PM 07/13/2001 -0500, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: >Yes it does, thank you. I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you. My >Programming Perl book tells me otherwise. I still consider myself a newbie, >however and welcome other comments. Don't "disagree" without first trying it for yourself. As

Re: breakable loop???

2001-07-13 Thread Thomas Jakub
Ummm... I can't seem to break out of my infinite loops by doing crtl + c... consequently, I can't go into the SIG{INT} function... I tried Crtl + Backspace, but that didn't work to well either... Crtl + S stopped it, but that was it... What are the control signals for unix? Or am I doing som

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
Yes it does, thank you. I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you. My Programming Perl book tells me otherwise. I still consider myself a newbie, however and welcome other comments. -Original Message- From: Bradley M. Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:10 PM To

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: > So let's clarify this. You believe the following to be equivalent: > > print ( 'The rain in $Spain' ); > print ( 'The rain in "$Spain"' ); The first would print The rain in $Spain The second would print The rain in "$Spain" Neither would interpolat

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Bradley M. Handy
No they aren't equivalent. The first prints out -> The rain in $Spain The second prints out -> The rain in "$Spain" Does that clarify things? > -Original Message- > From: Camilo Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:08 PM > To: 'Bradley M. Handy'; Camilo

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
So let's clarify this. You believe the following to be equivalent: print ( 'The rain in $Spain' ); print ( 'The rain in "$Spain"' ); -Original Message- From: Bradley M. Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:58 PM To: Camilo Gonzalez; 'Brett W. McCoy' Cc: Tony Pat

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: > That's true, but if you have double quotes inside of single quotes, the > double quotes will still interpolate. In other words, the enclosing single > quotes will not block the mighty interpolative power of the enclosed double > quotes. Please let me

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Bradley M. Handy
I believe that to be incorrect. The outermost quotes win. Brad --www.jack-of-all-trades.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Camilo Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:55 PM > To: 'Brett W. McCoy'; Camilo Gonzalez > Cc: 'Bradley M. Handy';

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
That's true, but if you have double quotes inside of single quotes, the double quotes will still interpolate. In other words, the enclosing single quotes will not block the mighty interpolative power of the enclosed double quotes. Please let me know if you believe this yo be incorrect. -Origi

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Thomas Jakub wrote: > what about print ""; ? > would that piece of code work? You can avoid the backslashitis by using the qq() operator: print qq(); It's much cleaner, especially with HTML. -- Brett http://www.chapelperilous.net/btfwk/

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Lisa Nyman
Hi, On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Thomas Jakub wrote: > what about print ""; ? > would that piece of code work? Yes, that works, but escaping characters can get very ugly on screen. Another option is the qq operator: print qq(); For long bits of HTML, I prefer the here doc method mentioned in other

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Thomas Jakub
what about print ""; ? would that piece of code work? --- "Bradley M. Handy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your quotes may be mismatched. Meaning that you are > enclosing the entire > HTML source with double quotes and you have > unescaped double quotes in your > HTML source. That would confuse

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Bradley M. Handy
Correct. > -Original Message- > From: Brett W. McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:35 PM > To: Camilo Gonzalez > Cc: 'Bradley M. Handy'; Tony Paterra; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script > > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Camilo Go

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Bradley M. Handy
Try running the following code as a test script: --- Start code #!/path/to/perl my $var = "I'm interpolated"; print 'This is a variable name-> $var'; print "\nThis is a variable value-> $var \n"; -- End code Your output should be: This is a variable name-> $var This is a variable value-

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: > I'm not sure your second example would work. I don't think single quotes > block interpolation What do you mean by that? Variables do not interpolate if the string is delimited by single quotes or q(); -- Brett ht

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
Bradley, I'm not sure your second example would work. I don't think single quotes block interpolation -Original Message- From: Bradley M. Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:56 PM To: Tony Paterra; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl

RE: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Bradley M. Handy
Your quotes may be mismatched. Meaning that you are enclosing the entire HTML source with double quotes and you have unescaped double quotes in your HTML source. That would confuse perl. For example: print ""; # in this line image.gif is a bareword. You should

Re: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Mark Bergeron
You may want to try this: print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; print < etc... EOF -Original Message- From: "Tony Paterra"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Jul 13 10:44:56 PDT 2001 Subject: Copy and past HTML into a perl script >I have a cgi script that I need to past

Re: Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Tony Paterra wrote: > I have a cgi script that I need to past approx 40 lines of HTML into. I was > hoping I could just get away with having a > > print ""; > > and get away with that but sadly no, I get incomplete set of headers errors. You need to print out the header inf

Copy and past HTML into a perl script

2001-07-13 Thread Tony Paterra
I have a cgi script that I need to past approx 40 lines of HTML into. I was hoping I could just get away with having a print ""; and get away with that but sadly no, I get incomplete set of headers errors. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tony -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: Is my script too big?

2001-07-13 Thread Curtis Poe
--- Gary Stainburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > It doesn't really matter what size your script is, the perl interpreter is > very good at compiling. Performance problems from larger scripts are > marginal too. > > However, I would suggest taking a step back from the project and ha

Re: Is my script too big?

2001-07-13 Thread darren chamberlain
[ I lost the original message. Sorry!] > Have you looked at things like HTML::Template to seperate out and manage > your HTML? > > I personally have *finally* started to practice what I preach, and I am > finding it easier. I'm just about to start looking at HTML::Template > myself. Quite oft

Perl locale problem

2001-07-13 Thread Jean-Christian Imbeault
I'm trying to get my apache server up and running but when I try and start it I get an perl error. I've tried a few thing to fix it but none ahve worked. Can anyone help me out? I am using RH7.1 and have installed japanese language support. For example I use a japanese keyboard, and sometimes

Re: breakable loop???

2001-07-13 Thread Will Cottay
In this case, sub report_stats would only be called when the script gets a sigint. Be sure to read perlipc and pay attention to the warnings therein. I don't think this will work under Windows, but I'm pretty sure that Term::ReadKey will. Thomas Jakub wrote: > > signal handling sounds i

Re: need system () command understanding

2001-07-13 Thread darren chamberlain
Dave, Dave C. Brewington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/12/2001: > I am using a script to parse through info sent in from a web > form. The information is parsed and creates two text files. > One is used for a flat text history file and the other flat > text file is use

Re: Is my script too big?

2001-07-13 Thread Gary Stainburn
Hi Dan, It doesn't really matter what size your script is, the perl interpreter is very good at compiling. Performance problems from larger scripts are marginal too. However, I would suggest taking a step back from the project and have a think about how you could change/improve things. It p

Re: Is my script too big?

2001-07-13 Thread Ginntonnik
Size Doesn't matter Or so Ive been told, Or led to believe :) - Original Message - From: "Daniel Falkenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:50 PM Subject: Is my script too big? > List, > > This may sound like a weird question but I am working