On 2 Jul 2008, at 4:22 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
2. Now that I'm a professional system admin who often has to support
commercial apps, I find I have to use a RH-based distro for two
reasons:
A. Most commercial software supports only Red Hat. Some go so far as
to refuse to install if RH is
now what happens if someone comes to me for rendering services and they used
maya will the maya file be able to use the software mentioned above or would
i need some other software for that?
On 7/2/08, Bernard Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL
dont throw in the towel just for that. try and see if you can get research
funding through the university you are attending
On 7/1/08, Mark Kosmowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I forgot to change the subject. Apologies.
On 7/1/08, Mark Kosmowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At some point
In my experience with 3D, the renderer is of particular note.
For example, it is entirely possible to model with one piece
of software, export geometry, and render with another piece
of software. And the production team will probably have very
specific ideas of which renderer is what they want,
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Jon Aquilina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
my idea is more of for my thesis.
If you're trying to do 3d animation on the cheap and you want
something that's already cluster capable, I'd try Blender. It is open
source and it has already made some reasonable length movies.
Henning Fehrmann wrote:
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:19:50AM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote:
On 2 Jul 2008, at 8:26 am, Carsten Aulbert wrote:
OK, we have 1342 nodes which act as servers as well as clients. Every
node exports a single local directory and all other nodes can mount this.
What we do now
Tim Cutts wrote:
On 2 Jul 2008, at 6:06 am, Mark Hahn wrote:
I was hoping for some discussion of concrete issues. for instance,
I have the impression debian uses something other than sysvinit -
does that work out well?
Debian uses standard sysvinit-style scripts in /etc/init.d,
Jon Aquilina wrote:
like you said in regards to maya money is a factor for me. if i do
descide to setup a rendering cluster my problem is going to be finding
someone who can make a small video in blender for me so i can render it.
Blender should come with a few small scene files you can
Lawrence Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My obligatory internet startup wrote a new single-threaded single-
process web server based on select(2) with careful attention to the
blocking or not nature of the kernel calls and were able to handle
some hundreds of connections per second on the
Mark Kosmowski wrote:
I think I have come to a compromise that can keep me in business.
Until I have a better understanding of the software and am ready for
production runs, I'll stick to a small system that can be run on one
node and leave the other two powered down. I've also applied for
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Here's another reason to use tarballs: I have /usr/local shared to all
eeek!! something named local is shared???
FWIW: we do the same thing, but put everything into /apps, and all nodes
have mounted /apps ...
requires a little ./configure -prefix=/apps/...
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Mark Kosmowski wrote:
I think I have come to a compromise that can keep me in business.
Until I have a better understanding of the software and am ready for
production runs, I'll stick to a small system that can be run on one
node and leave the other two powered down.
On 3 Jul 2008, at 2:38 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Here's another reason to use tarballs: I have /usr/local shared to all
my systems with with NFS.
Heh. Your view of local is different from mine. On my systems /usr/
local is local to the individual system. We do have NFS mounted
You don't need to go this far. Just set up the hostfile to use the same
host name several times. Just make sure you don't start swapping :)
Jeff
Unless the problem is configuring interhost communications correctly.
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Prentice
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Joe Landman wrote:
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Here's another reason to use tarballs: I have /usr/local shared to all
eeek!! something named local is shared???
Nothing wrong with that. local doesn't necessarily mean local to the
physical machine. It can mean for the local site. I do
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Joe Landman wrote:
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Here's another reason to use tarballs: I have /usr/local shared to all
eeek!! something named local is shared???
Nothing wrong with that. local doesn't necessarily mean local to the
physical machine. It can mean for the
i have a little bit of clustering experience.if anything im still
contemplating making a kubuntu derivative that is geared towards rendering
clusters with the software and what not. i just dont have any experience
with whats available for the rendering cluster market and linux that is why
im
Is there some MPI realization/versions which may be installed one some
nodes - to work over Mellanox IBGD 1.8.0 (Gold Distribution) IB stack
and on other nodes - for work w/OFED-1.2 ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Computer Assistance to Chemical Research Center
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 at 9:34am, Tim Cutts wrote
On 2 Jul 2008, at 4:22 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
B. Red Hat has done such a good job of spreading FUD about the other
Linux distros, management has a cow if you tell them you're installing
something other than RH.
Erm, do you have any examples
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Robert G. Brown wrote:
if you try to start up a second daemon on that port you'll get a
EADDRINUSE on the bind
While we talk about theoretical possibilities, this statement is not
always true. You could specify something else than INADDR_ANY here:
Mikhail Kuzminsky wrote:
Is there some MPI realization/versions which may be installed
one some nodes - to work over Mellanox IBGD 1.8.0 (Gold
Distribution) IB stack and on other nodes - for work w/OFED-1.2 ?
IBGD is out of date, and AFAIK none of the latest versions of the
various MPI
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 at 9:34am, Tim Cutts wrote
On 2 Jul 2008, at 4:22 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
B. Red Hat has done such a good job of spreading FUD about the other
Linux distros, management has a cow if you tell them you're installing
something other than RH.
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Seeing is believing. There are lots of good papers out there on
concurrency strategies for systems with vast numbers of sockets to
manage, and there is no doubt what the answer is -- threads suck
compared to events, full stop. Event systems scale
In message from Gilad Shainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu, 3 Jul
2008 09:41:01 -0700):
Mikhail Kuzminsky wrote:
Is there some MPI realization/versions which may be installed
one some nodes - to work over Mellanox IBGD 1.8.0 (Gold
Distribution) IB stack and on other nodes - for work w/OFED-1.2 ?
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Mark Kosmowski wrote:
I think I have come to a compromise that can keep me in business.
Until I have a better understanding of the software and am ready for
production runs, I'll stick to a small system that can be run on one
node and leave the other two
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 12:09:49PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 at 9:34am, Tim Cutts wrote
On 2 Jul 2008, at 4:22 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
B. Red Hat has done such a good job of spreading FUD about the other
Linux distros, management has a cow if you tell them
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Bogdan Costescu wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Robert G. Brown wrote:
if you try to start up a second daemon on that port you'll get a EADDRINUSE
on the bind
While we talk about theoretical possibilities, this statement is not always
true. You could specify something else
Carsten Aulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A solution proposed by the nfs guys is pretty simple:
Change the values of
/proc/sys/sunrpc/{min,max}_resvport
appropriately. But they don't know which ceiling will be next. But we
will test it.
What about my kernel patch to use unprived ports? Did
Bogdan Costescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Event driven programming typically uses registered callbacks that
are triggered by a central Event Loop when events happen. In such
a system, one never blocks for anything -- all activity is performed
in
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 at 9:34am, Tim Cutts wrote
On 2 Jul 2008, at 4:22 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
B. Red Hat has done such a good job of spreading FUD about the other
Linux distros, management has a cow if you tell them you're installing
something other than RH.
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 at 12:49pm, Joe Landman wrote
The only bad things I have seen RH do are their refusal to support good file
systems (as the size of disks hit 2GB at the end of the year, this is going
to bite them harder than it is now), and some of the choices they have made
in their
Jeffrey B. Layton wrote:
Prentice Bisbal wrote:
You don't need to go this far. Just set up the hostfile to use the same
host name several times. Just make sure you don't start swapping :)
Jeff
Unless the problem is configuring interhost communications correctly.
Then how does
Tim Cutts wrote:
On 3 Jul 2008, at 5:09 pm, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 at 9:34am, Tim Cutts wrote
On 2 Jul 2008, at 4:22 pm, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
B. Red Hat has done such a good job of spreading FUD about the other
Linux distros, management has a cow if you tell them
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 09:38:11AM -0400, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Here's another reason to use tarballs: I have /usr/local shared to all
my systems with with NFS. If want to install the lastest version of
firefox, you can just do this:
FWIW, the rpm way to do this is (ok, there's more than one
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 01:45:44PM -0400, Robert G. Brown wrote:
This is one reason that people use PVM and MPI and so on. It can be
argued (and has been argued on this list IIRC) that raw networking code
will always result in a faster parallel program, all things being equal,
because
Bogdan Costescu wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Event driven programming typically uses registered callbacks that are
triggered by a central Event Loop when events happen. In such a
system, one never blocks for anything -- all activity is performed in
callbacks, and one
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Greg Lindahl wrote:
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 09:38:11AM -0400, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
Here's another reason to use tarballs: I have /usr/local shared to all
my systems with with NFS. If want to install the lastest version of
firefox, you can just do this:
FWIW, the rpm
The whole Big Buck Bunny movie was rendering on a Grid Engine cluster
(aka. network.com). Big Buck Bunny is open content, and the software
used to create the film is opensource.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Buck_Bunny
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/
Rayson
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Jon
Gerry Creager wrote:
In the US, at least for academic institutions and hobbyists, surface and
upper air observations of the sort you describe are generally available
for incorporation into models for data assimilation. Models are
generally forced and bounded using model data from other
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 01:20:32PM -0400, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
And the Debian users can say the same thing about Red Hat users. Or SUSE
users. And if any still exist, the Slackware users could say the same
thing about the both of them. But then the Slackware users could also
point out that
Hi all,
Firstly before getting into the nitty gritty of my question, a bit of
background.
Myself and a friend are looking to set up initially two small clusters of 4
boxes each, using old surplus commodity hardware. The main purpose of the
cluster is to hold data and perform calculations upon
On 7/1/08 3:25PM , Mark Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm for me, its all about the kernel. Thats 90+% of the battle. Some
distros use good kernels, some do not. I won't mention who I think is in
the
latter category.
I was hoping for some discussion of concrete issues. for
Chris Samuel wrote:
- Prentice Bisbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The United States alone produces enough grain to feed the entire
world.
It is probably worth pointing out that, as a recent
New Scientist article mentioned, a major part for the
rise in grain prices is due the rising demand
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 04:21:55PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Henning Fehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thus, your problem sounds rather odd. There is no obvious reason you
should be limited to 360 connections.
Perhaps your problem is not what you think it is at all. Could you
Jon Aquilina wrote:
my idea is more of for my thesis. if i am goign ot do anything like
this. vernard thanks for the link. whats it like in a cluster
environment?
Ah. you are doing it for thesis work. Then money is probably very much a
limiting factor.
If you just need a renderer then you
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