[Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer

2008-12-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/270416/inside_tsubame_-_nvidia_gpu_supercomputer?fp=fpid=pf=1 Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer Tokyo Tech University's Tsubame supercomputer attained 29th ranking in the new Top 500, thanks in part to hundreds of Nvidia Tesla graphics cards.

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer - OpenCL

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Calvayrac-Castaing
Eugen Leitl wrote: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/270416/inside_tsubame_-_nvidia_gpu_supercomputer?fp=fpid=pf=1 Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer Tokyo Tech University's Tsubame supercomputer attained 29th ranking in the new Top 500, thanks in part to hundreds of Nvidia

Re: [Beowulf] Re: cloning issue, hidden module dependency

2008-12-12 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, David Mathog wrote: install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe uhci_hcd; /bin/true install ide-controller /sbin/modprobe via82cxxx; /sbin/modprobe ide_generic; /bin/true I don't know why you need these. On all the distributions that I've worked with recently such issues are

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer - OpenCL

2008-12-12 Thread Loic Tortay
Florent Calvayrac-Castaing wrote: [...] Interesting. I understand why, when I submitted a joint exploratory project about GPU computing two years ago with a Japanese colleague we were ranked first in Japan and last in France ; the idea seems more popular in Japan if they can fork

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer - OpenCL

2008-12-12 Thread Chris Samuel
- Florent Calvayrac-Castaing florent.calvay...@univ-lemans.fr wrote: By the way, has anyone on the list any idea on the prospects of Apple's OpenCL ? I think we need something that is hardware independent. If OpenCL can deliver that (and Apple obviously believe it can otherwise they'd

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer

2008-12-12 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/270416/inside_tsubame_- _nvidia_gpu_supercomputer?fp=fpid=pf=1 Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer Tokyo Tech University's Tsubame supercomputer attained 29th ranking in the new Top 500,

RS: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer

2008-12-12 Thread Alan Ward
Very interesting, but perhaps a bit of an overkill. How many TFlop/Watt does that figure out as? :-( Cheers, -Alan -Missatge original- De: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org en nom de Eugen Leitl Enviat el: dv. 12/12/2008 08:56 Per a: i...@postbiota.org; Beowulf@beowulf.org Tema: [Beowulf]

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Layton
Greg Lindahl wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:04:47AM +1100, Chris Samuel wrote: Hmm, I was thinking that until I read this blog post by one of the kernel filesystem developers (Val Henson from Intel) who had some (possibly Apple specific) concerns about data corruption reliability and

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Layton
Greg Lindahl wrote: I was recently surprised to learn that SSD prices are down in the $2-$3 per gbyte range. I did a survey of one brand (OCZ) at NexTag and it was: 256 gigs = $700 128 gigs = 300 64 gigs = 180 32 gigs = 70 Also, Micron is saying that they're going to get into the

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices

2008-12-12 Thread Geoff Jacobs
Jeff Layton wrote: Greg Lindahl wrote: I was recently surprised to learn that SSD prices are down in the $2-$3 per gbyte range. I did a survey of one brand (OCZ) at NexTag and it was: 256 gigs = $700 128 gigs = 300 64 gigs = 180 32 gigs = 70 Also, Micron is saying that they're

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer - OpenCL

2008-12-12 Thread John Hearns
2008/12/12 Loic Tortay tor...@cc.in2p3.fr If I'm not mistaken, the Tsubame cluster was initially using Clearspeed accelerators (in Sun X4600 fat nodes). Therefore, they probably have appropriate programs that need little adaptation (or less than many) to work on the GPUs. E I'm no

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer - OpenCL

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Layton
John Hearns wrote: 2008/12/12 Loic Tortay tor...@cc.in2p3.fr mailto:tor...@cc.in2p3.fr If I'm not mistaken, the Tsubame cluster was initially using Clearspeed accelerators (in Sun X4600 fat nodes). Therefore, they probably have appropriate programs that need little

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Layton
Geoff Jacobs wrote: Jeff Layton wrote: Remember that OCZ does not equal Fusion-IO :) There are many factors that go into an SSD that determine performance. So the performance of OCZ is not nearly that of Fusion-IO's product. For example, I've been tracking some performance testing of a wide

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices - q: how many writes/erases???

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Layton
Peter Jakobi wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 08:17:19AM -0600, Geoff Jacobs wrote: Rehi, Reliability is another question and I posted a quick response to this list in a different email. This being my big concern with flash. related is this topic on SSD / flashes: what's the

[Beowulf] Re: Beowulf Digest, Vol 58, Issue 28

2008-12-12 Thread Alcides Simao
Hello 'wulfers! Any news on GPCPU stuff from ATI? Best, Alcides ___ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf

Re: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks versus boxes and good rack solutions for commodity hardware

2008-12-12 Thread arjuna
I am in NewDelhi India. However I would prefer to put the cluster together myself, because 1) I am a good python programmer and like programming and playing with computers 2) I will be using the cluster for animation (art + computers) and may have to bend it and tinker with it...therefore it

Re: [Beowulf] Parallel software for chemists

2008-12-12 Thread Dr Cool Santa
Thanks, seems like a good website. Actually it is my mother who is the chemist. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM, John Hearns hear...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/10 Dr Cool Santa drcoolsa...@gmail.com Currently in the lab we use Schrodinger and we are looking into NWchem. We'd be

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Brown
Greg Lindahl wrote: I was recently surprised to learn that SSD prices are down in the $2-$3 per gbyte range. I did a survey of one brand (OCZ) at NexTag and it was: 256 gigs = $700 128 gigs = 300 64 gigs = 180 32 gigs = 70 Alas, these drives have lousy random write performance. As in 4

Re: [Beowulf] SSD prices - q: how many writes/erases???

2008-12-12 Thread Peter Jakobi
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 08:17:19AM -0600, Geoff Jacobs wrote: Rehi, Reliability is another question and I posted a quick response to this list in a different email. This being my big concern with flash. related is this topic on SSD / flashes: what's the life time when changing the same

RE: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks versus boxes and good rack solutions for commodity hardware

2008-12-12 Thread Lux, James P
From: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On Behalf Of arjuna Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:05 AM To: beowulf@beowulf.org Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks versus boxes and good

Re: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks versus boxes and good rack solutions for commodity hardware

2008-12-12 Thread John Hearns
2008/12/11 arjuna brahmafor...@gmail.com What is 1u? Easy question! a U is short for a rack unit. Rack mounted equipment always comes in multiples of a vertical height unit, which is 1.75 inches. I gather this is actually an old Russian unit of measurement (you can check on Wikipedia). So when

RE: [Beowulf] SSD prices

2008-12-12 Thread Lux, James P
Reliability should be fine in laptops, though I'd be less keen to deploy a rack full of them - they're a lot more sensitive to electrical noise than traditional HDDs when both reading and writing, so their reliability in these situations depends on how good the ADC and DAC converters are in

Re: [Beowulf] Rear-door heat exchangers and condensation

2008-12-12 Thread John Hearns
I was down in our server room with the ICE this afternoon. Its worth describing how they are put together for the purposes of this thread. Each rack has four blade chassis in it. These are called Independent Rack Units in SGI speak. An IRU has sixteen compute blades, plus the mains PSUs and

[Beowulf] Can't unload OpenIB kernel modules during a reboot

2008-12-12 Thread Prentice Bisbal
When I reboot the nodes in my cluster, the openibd scripts hangs when shutting down. If I wait long enough(5-10 minutes, probably closer to 10), it eventually completes, or at least fails so the system can continue shutting down. If I do 'service openibd stop' before doing the reboot, the openibd

Re: [Beowulf] Rear-door heat exchangers and condensation

2008-12-12 Thread Huw Lynes
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 17:35 +, John Hearns wrote: At the rear of each IRU there is a bank of big fans. Each IRU couples up to a 1/4 sized rear rack door, using a foam gasket. Each of these 1/4 sized doors is a swing out heat exchanger. That's the bit of information I was missing. I'd

Re: [Beowulf] Can't unload OpenIB kernel modules during a reboot

2008-12-12 Thread Joe Landman
Prentice Bisbal wrote: Any ideas why this script would behave differently during a shutdown? Hi Prentice Sounds like a race situation. Do you have an NFS mount over IPoIB? Joe -- Joseph Landman, Ph.D Founder and CEO Scalable Informatics LLC, email:

Re: [Beowulf] Rear-door heat exchangers and condensation

2008-12-12 Thread John Hearns
2008/12/12 Huw Lynes lyn...@cardiff.ac.uk That's the bit of information I was missing. I'd assumed the entire door swung out as one losing all cooling when you work on the rack. The stable-door approach makes more sense. I still like our APC contained hot-aisle system though. Horses for

Re: [Beowulf] Parallel software for chemists

2008-12-12 Thread Mikhail Kuzminsky
In message from Dr Cool Santa drcoolsa...@gmail.com (Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:21:43 +0530): Currently in the lab we use Schrodinger and we are looking into NWchem. We'd be interested in knowing about software that a chemist could use that makes use of a parallel supercomputer. And better if it is

1U for racks? RE: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks...

2008-12-12 Thread Lux, James P
From: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On Behalf Of John Hearns 2008/12/11 arjuna brahmafor...@gmail.com What is 1u? Easy question! a U is short for a rack unit. Rack mounted equipment always comes in multiples of a

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Rear-door heat exchangers and condensation

2008-12-12 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:09:10PM -0800, Michael Huntingdon wrote: Today it really is not just about cooling a group of 1u systems or a single hptc cabinet. Today maybe you know you need two densely populated cabinets. Like most people, I can't use very dense systems, due to the power/cubic

Re: [Beowulf] Can't unload OpenIB kernel modules during a reboot

2008-12-12 Thread Prentice Bisbal
Joe Landman wrote: Prentice Bisbal wrote: Any ideas why this script would behave differently during a shutdown? Hi Prentice Sounds like a race situation. Do you have an NFS mount over IPoIB? Joe I do have NFS mounts, but *NOT* through IPoIB. At least they *shouldn't* be. I

Re: [Beowulf] Re: cloning issue, hidden module dependency

2008-12-12 Thread David Mathog
Bogdan Costescu wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, David Mathog wrote: install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe uhci_hcd; /bin/true install ide-controller /sbin/modprobe via82cxxx; /sbin/modprobe ide_generic; /bin/true I don't know why you need these. On all the distributions that I've worked

Re: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks versus boxes and good rack solutions for commodity hardware

2008-12-12 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, arjuna wrote: I am in NewDelhi India. However I would prefer to put the cluster together myself, because Ya, that's where I lived for seven years growing up. 1) I am a good python programmer and like programming and playing with computers 2) I will be using the cluster

Re: [Beowulf] Inside Tsubame - the Nvidia GPU supercomputer

2008-12-12 Thread Igor Kozin
23.55 Mflops/W according to green500 estimates (#488 in thier list) 2008/12/12 Vincent Diepeveen d...@xs4all.nl On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/270416/inside_tsubame_- _nvidia_gpu_supercomputer?fp=fpid=pf=1 Inside Tsubame - the

Re: [Beowulf] For grins...India

2008-12-12 Thread Nifty Tom Mitchell
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:01:23AM +0100, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: What is most interesting from supercomputer viewpoint seen is the comments i got from some scientists when speaking about climate calculations. At a presentation at SARA at 11 september 2008 with some bobo's there

[Beowulf] File server on ROCKS cluster

2008-12-12 Thread Vlad Manea
Hi, I need to add to my new ROCKS 5.1 cluster a fileserver, the /export partition of the first disk on the frontend might not be enough. First question: Is there any documentation on how rocks do this? Second: is out there anyone with experience on Dell MD3000(i) with rocks? I will probably buy

Re: [Beowulf] Newbie Question: Racks versus boxes and good rack solutions for commodity hardware

2008-12-12 Thread Dmitri Chubarov
Hello, my first reply missed the list by mistake so I will repeat a few points that I mentioned there. What is 1u? What is a blade system? Compute clusters are often built of rack-server hardware meaning boxes different from desktop boxes and chipset that have features not necessary for

Re: [Beowulf] Rear-door heat exchangers and condensation

2008-12-12 Thread Bill Sellers
John Hearns wrote: 2008/12/12 Huw Lynes lyn...@cardiff.ac.uk mailto:lyn...@cardiff.ac.uk That's the bit of information I was missing. I'd assumed the entire door swung out as one losing all cooling when you work on the rack. The stable-door approach makes more sense.