Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop

2008-12-29 Thread Gerry Creager
OUR users are willing to pony up the funds to buy Matlab. We're already running Octave but they claimed they didn't know how to use it. Even after we showed them Matlab scripts that just ran on Octave. As for Fortran vs C, real scientists program in Fortran. Real Old Scientists program in

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop

2008-12-29 Thread Mikhail Kuzminsky
In message from Gerry Creager gerry.crea...@tamu.edu (Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:01:21 -0600): As for Fortran vs C, real scientists program in Fortran. Real Old Scientists program in Fortran-66. Carbon-dated scientists can still recall IBM FORTRAN-G and -H. :-) I didn't check, but may be I just

Octave vs Matlab Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop

2008-12-29 Thread Lux, James P
On 12/29/08 7:01 AM, Gerry Creager gerry.crea...@tamu.edu wrote: OUR users are willing to pony up the funds to buy Matlab. We're already running Octave but they claimed they didn't know how to use it. Even after we showed them Matlab scripts that just ran on Octave. I use both on

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop

2008-12-29 Thread John Hearns
:-) I didn't check, but may be I just have Fortran-G and H on my PC - as a part of free Turnkey MVS distribution working w/(free) Hercules emulator for IBM mainframes. Ah... Job Control Language. Deep, deep joy. ___ Beowulf mailing list,

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop

2008-12-29 Thread Gus Correa
Hello Beowulfers (This thread should be renamed Matlab and Octave.) Matlab is the lingua franca for computing among students and young scientists, at least in Earth Sciences (solid earth, atmosphere/oceans/climate, geochemistry, etc), as I observe it here. A number of our students come from

[Beowulf] Re: Matlab and Octave

2008-12-29 Thread Gus Correa
Greg Lindahl wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:18:32PM -0500, Gus Correa wrote: (This thread should be renamed Matlab and Octave.) Indeed, it only takes a few seconds to change a subject... I'm surprised that Columbia doesn't still have a Fortran or computing-for-scientists class;

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop

2008-12-29 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 05:16:04PM -0600, Gerry Creager wrote: We've a user who has requested its installation on one of our clusters, a high-throughput system. You didn't say anything about what they wanted to do. Hadoop is designed to store a lot of data, and then enable what we HPC people

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Matlab and Octave

2008-12-29 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:38:15PM -0500, Gus Correa wrote: I don't have any statistics or data, but I guess this is the picture across the country. Most people need 2 data points before they generalize to the entire country. Many useless threads on this mailing list come from debating

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Matlab and Octave

2008-12-29 Thread Gus Correa
Greg Lindahl wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:38:15PM -0500, Gus Correa wrote: I don't have any statistics or data, but I guess this is the picture across the country. Most people need 2 data points before they generalize to the entire country. Many useless threads on this mailing

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Matlab and Octave

2008-12-29 Thread Lux, James P
On 1 My daughter's recent freshman Intro to Computers class at another high-ranked college consisted of C programming (KR was the textbook) with OpenGL examples. I would guess fashionable/pedantic approaches push young people with no previous exposure to Unix and programming towards the

Re: [Beowulf] Not all cores are created equal

2008-12-29 Thread Nifty Tom Mitchell
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 09:03:38PM +1100, Chris Samuel wrote: - John Hearns hear...@googlemail.com wrote: SGI Altix have 'bootcpusets' which means you can slice off one or two processors to take care of OS housekeeping tasks, Now that cpusets have been in the mainline kernel for

Re: [Beowulf] Not all cores are created equal

2008-12-29 Thread Chris Samuel
- Nifty Tom Mitchell niftyo...@niftyegg.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 09:03:38PM +1100, Chris Samuel wrote: I contemplated doing this on our Barcelona cluster, but sacrificing 1 core in 8 was a bit too much of a high price to pay. But people with higher core counts per node

[Beowulf] CFP: 3rd International Workshop on Virtualization Technologies in Distributed Computing (VTDC-09)

2008-12-29 Thread Chris Samuel
Call for Papers 3rd International Workshop on Virtualization Technologies in Distributed Computing (VTDC-09) http://grid-appliance.org/vtdc09