On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:18:06PM -0400, Mark Hahn wrote: >>> I'd like to add that Dell's DKMS (Dynamics Kernel Management System) is >>> great: >>> >>> http://linux.dell.com/projects.shtml#dkms > > > HP has its own distro, but is still trying to use a traditional approach > to making patches patches available. (ie, ftp patch files > that unpack to rpm(s), install script and docs). it seems pretty > obvious that yum repos are the way to go (is there any _technical_ > reason to prefer deb's?
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa :) Yes: RPMs are binary : .debs can be unpacked with ar and cpio only - rpm requires a working RPM system with rpm2cpio to me, the gist of a distro is the web of > version dependencies that it presents when installed. why distros > at all? because dependecies are normally a digraph, sometimes cyclic, > so it's really hard to share non-leaf packages between distros... > This is _exactly_ why I only use Red Hat under duress: CentOS and SUSE are little different in this respect. Everything other than a distribution with a decent dependency policy fails once you get outside the small core of well maintained packages. Debian just fails much less often in this respect - though the initial effort needed to sort out and collaboratively maintain the dependencies web amounts to durance vile for 1000 maintainers :) >> Cut a deal with vmware on the side, add full out-of-the-box lin/win > > is there any reason to prever vmware over one of the free VMs? > >> via yum and he could take the office desktop by storm. Secure windows >> -- run from inside linux! > KVM would appear to eat VMWare's lunch when properly implemented. Across > 500 machines, VMWare becomes prohibitively expensive in terms of enterprise licence fees and overall administration - and I also have a private "thing" against proprietary kernel modules that have to be changed with every upgrade. > I'm not so sure about that - why would VMed windows be more secure? > my understanding is that the thing that makes windows vulnerable is the > hooks that make windows integration work. and it's the integration > that people expect, no? VM'ed Windows: you can reduce your Windows to a minimal footprint, firewall the VMs, use SE Linux and do everything else to produce a maximally secure VM infrastructure. When it fails, just get the clean instance of the VM again. If you deny Windows access to a network, email and the Web unless severely filtered and ensure that the VM can be replaced/regenerated in an instant then you're starting to produce something workable. [A silk effect sow's ear purse if seen subject to the right lighting constraints ... ] AndyC > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf