Re: [Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Gus Correa
For those old enough to have heard somebody as great as John Lennon sing that the dream is over, and rather mediocre philosophers claim the end of history, prophecies that were never confirmed, reading bombastic claims that MPI is dead is not so unsettling. After all, reports of the death of

Re: [Beowulf] US bans Intel Xeon exports to China's Supercomputer centers

2015-04-08 Thread Jeff Johnson
Such a ban is kind of humorous when you consider that a large percentage of Xeon production goes to China where they are integrated into systems built by the contract manufacturers (Foxconn, Quanta, etc). On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Kilian Cavalotti kilian.cavalotti.w...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Beowulf] US bans Intel Xeon exports to China's Supercomputer centers

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Samuel
On 09/04/15 14:05, Kilian Cavalotti wrote: If that's confirmed, that would be a big loss for Intel, both in the short and longer terms. That after Summit, that looks like a lot to take in. Very easy to confirm, they are now listed (as of February 18th) as being on the EAR entity list for

Re: [Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 03:57:34PM -0400, Scott Atchley wrote: There is concern by some and outright declaration by others (including hardware vendors) that MPI will not scale to exascale due to issues like rank state growing too large for 10-100 million endpoints, That's weird, given that

Re: [Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Kilian Cavalotti
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Prentice Bisbal prentice.bis...@rutgers.edu wrote: I got annoyed by this article and had to stop reading it. I'll go back later and try to give it a proper critique, but obviously disagree with most of what I've read so far. Right of the bat, the author implies

[Beowulf] US bans Intel Xeon exports to China's Supercomputer centers

2015-04-08 Thread Kilian Cavalotti
Hi all, According to http://www.vrworld.com/2015/04/07/usa-shocks-intel-ban-on-china-xeon-supercomputers/, the US government has placed the 4 major China Supercomputer Centers on the “Denial List,” which prevents “high technology from the USA” to be sold to these sites. On claims that they are

Re: [Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Samuel
On 09/04/15 03:16, H. Vidal, Jr. wrote: Curious as to what the body of thought is here on this article: Some quick random thoughts on this article from down under: 1) Whilst MPI implies HPC HPC does not necessarily imply MPI (and it never has in my decade of doing HPC, there have always been

[Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread H. Vidal, Jr.
Curious as to what the body of thought is here on this article: http://www.dursi.ca/hpc-is-dying-and-mpi-is-killing-it/ ___ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or

Re: [Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Prentice Bisbal
I got annoyed by this article and had to stop reading it. I'll go back later and try to give it a proper critique, but obviously disagree with most of what I've read so far. Right of the bat, the author implies that Big Data = HPC, and I disagree with that. More ranting to come Prentice

Re: [Beowulf] interesting article on HPC vs evolution of 'big data' analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Scott Atchley
There is concern by some and outright declaration by others (including hardware vendors) that MPI will not scale to exascale due to issues like rank state growing too large for 10-100 million endpoints, lack of reliability, etc. Those that make this claim then offer up their favorite solution (a