Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
On 5/21/19 12:22 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: On 5/18/19 11:54 AM, Chris Samuel wrote: On 17/5/19 12:37 pm, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: That is my biggest fear for centos to be fair with the IBM RH acquisition. I think IBM at least seems to get open source, especially around Linux. Now if it was

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Douglas Eadline
> On Mon, 20 May 2019 18:42:31 -0400, you wrote: > >>I am curious, do you have some evidence for the demise of CentOS >>other than IBM bought RH? > > The important thing to remember about CentOS (and presumably why Red > Hat brought it on board) is that it is not really a RHEL competitor, >

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Douglas Eadline
> On 5/18/19 11:54 AM, Chris Samuel wrote: >> On 17/5/19 12:37 pm, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >> >>> That is my biggest fear for centos to be fair with the IBM RH >>> acquisition. >> >> I think IBM at least seems to get open source, especially around >> Linux. Now if it was Oracle who had bought

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Last I spoke to someone who worked at RH understanding their support fees and how that all works is one giant mess. Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Gerald Henriksen Sent: 21 May 2019 15:21 To: beowulf@beowulf.org Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Jonathan Engwall
I looked at stock price and volume for Cray, IBM, and Red Hat today. Red Hat is impressive. On Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:20 AM Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 20 May 2019 18:42:31 -0400, you wrote: > > >I am curious, do you have some evidence for the demise of CentOS > >other than IBM bought RH? >

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Mon, 20 May 2019 18:42:31 -0400, you wrote: >I am curious, do you have some evidence for the demise of CentOS >other than IBM bought RH? The important thing to remember about CentOS (and presumably why Red Hat brought it on board) is that it is not really a RHEL competitor, rather it is a

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-21 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
On 5/18/19 11:54 AM, Chris Samuel wrote: On 17/5/19 12:37 pm, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: That is my biggest fear for centos to be fair with the IBM RH acquisition. I think IBM at least seems to get open source, especially around Linux. Now if it was Oracle who had bought them... I can't

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-20 Thread Douglas Eadline
> I just wanted to point out that Fedora, while having a lot of volunteers > is > primarily driven by Red Hat employees, so I don't think forking it is a > viable option. If you want to get an idea of what forking RHEL/Centos > would > be listen to an Oracle Linux rep who will be more than happy

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On 20/05/2019 14:45, Alexander Antoniades wrote: > I just wanted to point out that Fedora, while having a lot of volunteers > is primarily driven by Red Hat employees, so I don't think forking it is > a viable option. If you want to get an idea of what forking RHEL/Centos > would be listen to an

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-20 Thread Alexander Antoniades
I just wanted to point out that Fedora, while having a lot of volunteers is primarily driven by Red Hat employees, so I don't think forking it is a viable option. If you want to get an idea of what forking RHEL/Centos would be listen to an Oracle Linux rep who will be more than happy to tell you

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-20 Thread Scott Atchley
Geez, I take one day of vacation and this happens. My phone was lit up all day. On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:20 AM Kilian Cavalotti < kilian.cavalotti.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On 17/5/19 12:37 pm, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: That is my biggest fear for centos to be fair with the IBM RH acquisition. I think IBM at least seems to get open source, especially around Linux. Now if it was Oracle who had bought them... All the best, Chris -- Chris Samuel :

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On 17/5/19 8:31 am, Kilian Cavalotti wrote: Such an acquisition surely can't be done without an impact on such monumental projects, and I'm wondering what route HPE will follow there. I would guess there would be contractual obligations around these that HPE would inherit. I'd also note

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
-Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Gerald Henriksen Sent: 18 May 2019 01:27 To: Beowulf@beowulf.org Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:10:16 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: >> >&

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:10:16 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: >> >> Redhat and IBM im worried as I use Centos big time and then the only thing I >> can think of is forking fedora and roll a rolling distro if they decide to >> pull the plug. But we

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
That is my biggest fear for centos to be fair with the IBM RH acquisition. From: Jonathan Engwall Sent: 17 May 2019 21:32 To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: Kilian Cavalotti ; Deepak Singh ; beowulf Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray Re: feeling about IBM RedHat, Other types of acquisitions

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Engwall
ojects as is since they were awarded before > the acquisition by HPE. I would say anything is possible at this stage. > > -Original Message- > From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Kilian Cavalotti > Sent: 17 May 2019 17:31 > To: Deepak Singh > Cc: beowulf > Subject: Re: [Beowulf]

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Sent: 17 May 2019 17:31 To: Deepak Singh Cc: beowulf Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:36 AM Deepak Singh wrote: > It’s official now > > https://www.cray.com/company/news-and-media/hpe-acquisition-press-rele > ase I'm wondering how this will impact t

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
What kind of feeling re IBM RH? Regards, Jonathan From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Jonathan Engwall Sent: 17 May 2019 19:00 To: Kilian Cavalotti Cc: Beowulf Mailing List Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray Hello, This could be the beginning of a super corporation, like Coca-Cola or Time

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I would say that is a discussion for another email thread. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Eliot Eshelman Sent: 17 May 2019 18:26 To: Beowulf Mailing List Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray Should have gone for the ZombieLoad, RIDL, MDS nightmare. Still

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
On 5/17/19 10:10 AM, Michael Di Domenico wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Redhat and IBM im worried as I use Centos big time and then the only thing I can think of is forking fedora and roll a rolling distro if they decide to pull the plug. But we have to

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Engwall
Hello, This could be the beginning of a super corporation, like Coca-Cola or Time-Warner. Large contracts are attractive and the acquisition is brings in quick cash. IBM RedHat leaves me with another feeling. Jonathan Engwall On Fri, May 17, 2019, 8:31 AM Kilian Cavalotti <

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Eliot Eshelman
Should have gone for the ZombieLoad, RIDL, MDS nightmare. Still hasn't been mentioned on this list ;-) Eliot On 5/17/19 11:44 AM, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf wrote: Damn it. Late to the party again! Prentice Bisbal Lead Software Engineer Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
Damn it. Late to the party again! Prentice Bisbal Lead Software Engineer Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory http://www.pppl.gov On 5/17/19 11:36 AM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:

[Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-17/hp-enterprise-said-to-near-deal-to-buy-supercomputer-maker-cray-jvrfiu79 -- Prentice Bisbal Lead Software Engineer Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory http://www.pppl.gov ___ Beowulf mailing list,

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Kilian Cavalotti
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:36 AM Deepak Singh wrote: > It’s official now > > https://www.cray.com/company/news-and-media/hpe-acquisition-press-release I'm wondering how this will impact the two CORAL-2 contracts that have been awarded already. Intel subcontracted Cray on Argonne's Aurora, and

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Michael ill send you an email off list re centos as I have an idea I would love to bring to life Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Beowulf on behalf of Michael Di Domenico Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 16:10 Cc: beowulf Subject: Re: [Beowul

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > Redhat and IBM im worried as I use Centos big time and then the only thing I > can think of is forking fedora and roll a rolling distro if they decide to > pull the plug. But we have to wait and see. in regards to centos, that's

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
fedora and roll a rolling distro if they decide to pull the plug. But we have to wait and see. Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico Sent: 17 May 2019 15:58 Cc: beowulf Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:53

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:53 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > Interesting I am dealing with one of the two local distributors in Malta and > they are quite helpful when it comes to encountering issues. some of it is certainly location dependant. i've dealt with the us, uk, and irish teams. the

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Interesting I am dealing with one of the two local distributors in Malta and they are quite helpful when it comes to encountering issues. Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico Sent: 17 May 2019 15:51 Cc: beowulf Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:45 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > They have some amazing hardware. Quick to deploy windows etc on them for > sure. What am I missing with the ugh dealing with hp again. HP is separate > from enterprise side of things. For enterprise there is HPE. They are part of >

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Message- From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico Sent: 17 May 2019 13:44 Cc: beowulf Subject: Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:20 AM Kilian Cavalotti wrote: > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-17/hp-enterprise-said- > to-near-de

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Deepak Singh
It’s official now https://www.cray.com/company/news-and-media/hpe-acquisition-press-release > On May 17, 2019, at 04:43, Michael Di Domenico wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:20 AM Kilian Cavalotti > wrote: >> >>

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-17 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:20 AM Kilian Cavalotti wrote: > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-17/hp-enterprise-said-to-near-deal-to-buy-supercomputer-maker-cray-jvrfiu79 on one had bloomberg hasn't done so well in the tech reporting lately (ala supermicro and others), so i guess

Re: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
, Jonathan From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Kilian Cavalotti Sent: 17 May 2019 07:20 To: beowulf Subject: [Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-17/hp-enterprise-said-to-near-deal-to-buy-supercomputer-maker-cray-jvrfiu79 Cheers, -- Kilian

[Beowulf] HPE to acquire Cray

2019-05-16 Thread Kilian Cavalotti
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-17/hp-enterprise-said-to-near-deal-to-buy-supercomputer-maker-cray-jvrfiu79 Cheers, -- Kilian ___ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription