Breeders vs. PPO's - Hopefully a Draw

2003-03-12 Thread Alex Ford
Over the past several days I've read a number of postings here about why breeders ask so many questions and sometimes come off to PPO's as aggressive and rude. My own experience has been somewhere in the middle: I'm a first-time PPO. Nowadays (armed with info I learned here on the Berner-L) I

Innate behaviours : was retrieving

2003-03-12 Thread Marion Brown
Within a breed there will be found often quite a wide variation in a particular trait. Even in breeds where retrieving is bred for this will happen and there is no doubt that as with other innate behaviours the ability to retrieve has to be selected for in a breeding programme. Malcolm Willis, in

invisible fencing

2003-03-12 Thread Rhona Vantine
I had a friend that owned an escapee Beagle. He went through the invisible fencing several times and one day never came back. Very sad. Rhona Vantine __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com

Re: Was Had Enough, Now Actual Questions

2003-03-12 Thread HenochNJ
In a message dated 3/11/2003 6:41:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My original post was asking for actual conversations On a light(?)note, here's my favorite: I met a lovely, well-off, older gentleman at the dog park recently (he's now about 75, I'd say). He admired my

Invisible Fence

2003-03-12 Thread Dazyr
We have had the Invisible Fence almost since it came on the market, over 16 years. We have had Sheepdogs, a Golden, Mutts, an Irish Settler, and Bernese. Two were very stubborn, but it worked for them, sometimes using a stronger battery, or longer prongs. I do have to say that the only problem

RE: Just because you are rich................

2003-03-12 Thread Rose Tierney
Romaine, I am completely confused by your post! As the owner of the 12 Berners who wrote a humorous post I don't see the connection with interview techniques for puppy buyers. I am not concerned whether someone is high or low on a perceived social strata nor whether they live in a rented condo

Re: My beloved Berner

2003-03-12 Thread BMDwags
Hi Cissy- What a heart-wrenching decision that must have been for you to turn to. Your post did not mention that you had anyone to turn to such as Cissy's breeder, a trainer, or a veterinarian, to help with your dog's aggression issues. It is such a shame that we failed you. It is such a

AOL HTML

2003-03-12 Thread BMDwags
Hi Everyone- I don't know if this helps...but I have used all of the AOL versions, and currently am using AOL 7.0 (only because I really don't like 8.0 at all). I can post directly to the Berner-L, and other internet groups, without a problem...as long as I never cut/copy paste words from

Lipid Build-up in Cornea

2003-03-12 Thread Timothy Forman
Dear fellow listers, Unfortunately we find ourselves once again in the position of needing advice on a medical matter. Gandalf (aged 2 1/2) has developed alittle spot in each cornea. We have had Vets in Germany (personal friend of Christl's) and Switzerland check him out. They had never seen such

Hugo update?

2003-03-12 Thread Terri . Shields
Have I missed an update on Hugo? IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offense. Please delete if

Re: Fetching Berners (aren't they all?)

2003-03-12 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 3/10/2003 6:25:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've heard that Berners aren't much for fetch, but our boy loves it! I think some are, some aren't. I couldn't believe my eyes watching a 7.5 week old, totally untrained, Berner baby do a complete fetch

Re: AOL HTML

2003-03-12 Thread gwebara
I don't have AOL but with my Juno account I've noticed that if I reply to a post sent on the L and Cc it to the L or have a Cc to the original sender or another list, I get truncated. So, all replies must go to the L independent of any copies. Susan Ablon Gweebarra BMD Balch Springs, Tx

Good puppy

2003-03-12 Thread John Engstrom
Well it finally happened. Enzo, out 4 month old bouncing ball of puppy energy has been quite the dominant dog. When we took him to puppy class his first month with us he would climb on all the other dogs in the class and force them on their sides/backs. He wasn't agressive at all, just

Fencing

2003-03-12 Thread strodes
Hi All, I'm throwing this out to you all in hopes that can help me. I am a PPO and have been contacting breeders. The last 3 that I spoke with, when they found out we have an invisible fence, in lieu of a regular fence, politely informed me that they would not sell to anyone with an

My Hugo (Sad)

2003-03-12 Thread iguanalove
Dear list, I have been struggling to write this note. Hugo's beautiful quad chair arrived thanks to all of you and after getting him used to the sight and smell of it and having him wear the supports, we put him in. He was such a good boy about cooperating with our clumsy efforts to hook him up.

My Breeder

2003-03-12 Thread Kenneth L Babcock
Hi All! I wanted to comment on the behavior post! I could not agree more about the good and bad, regarding breeders and owners! Reciently I attending two local shows and I met quite a variety of handlers and breeders! There were two berner breeders I met in Monticello, and they had no desire or

RE: Lipid Build-up in Cornea

2003-03-12 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Tim, Don't think that blindness will necessarily preclude Gandalf from running free and enjoying life! Just a few extra commands will help tremendously. We taught our Sam the commands, up, down, over, under, and careful. That was about it! And when we called him, we clapped until he came. We

Re: Fencing

2003-03-12 Thread T Thompson
Hi Susan and all, I prefer not to place puppies in homes with invisible fences - because it is a system that fails to offer the puppy any protection from other dogs, kids, etc. that may enter the property and cause harm. We got along just fine with our invisible

Re: Pat Long Photos More Longlease Updates!

2003-03-12 Thread jean cheesman
Hi All, I will be doing photos in Long Beach, assisted by the lovely Joye Neff - Now make sure you go and grab this opportunity to have Pat take one of her spectacular pics! We'll be doing them from Wednesday through Saturday, with time off for Berner-Garde board meetings and the like. I

RE Favorite dog books

2003-03-12 Thread catherine green
I second the titles, Don't Shoot The Dog (Karen Pryor) and The Culture Clash (Jean Donaldson). Excellent books! I'd also add How To Teach A New Dog Old Tricks (Ian Dunbar). It has lots of easy to follow/understand information on teaching dogs manners and helping them to be family companions.

Breeder/PPO

2003-03-12 Thread MikeDeanna
When looking for a pup, Deanna and I originally looked at Saints, and met with two breeders, then looked at Leonbergers, again meeting two breeders. While all four people were very nice, only one Saint breeder and one Leo breeder actually let us interact with the dogs. The other two let us look

Re: Was Had Enough, Now Actual Questions

2003-03-12 Thread Mary Shaver
Anne wrote: P.S. I think the thing that some potential owners find off-putting (and it hasn't been my experience)is less the actual questions than the overall sense that they are being discouraged or excluded from Bernerdom as a matter of principle. I don't want to indiscriminately absolve bad

Re: Fencing

2003-03-12 Thread Ruth Reynolds
We've had 2 goldens and a black lab, both with using the invisible fence. As they were intelligent animals, once trained, (which took no time at all) they realized that when they got the audible tone to back off and all was well. We never had a problem with it. I know they get a slight shock

Puppy Games

2003-03-12 Thread chellotchr
Hello All; I need some help from you long-time trainers out there on the L. I am instructing my first Puppy Kindergarten class at our training club. Klarsson gets to go along and be a demo dog and for a lot of the students, it is the first real BMD that they have seen. Anyway, we are trying to

Kennedy R.I.P. ......Thanks for your condolences support

2003-03-12 Thread Wexford96C
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